Contemplative / Shakti

Looks like my Spam-block wasn’t working today… But then again, I do appreciate getting a little “outside help” in proving where Contemplative prayer really comes from.
…and yet to date, Mike Bickle really advocates this practice heartily at IHOP. Mike’s not the only one however.

Contemplative is springing up everywhere within the body of Christ. Christians are learning this demonic practice and are calling it ‘good’. I used to be so amazed at this thinking, “How can they (anyone who calls the self a Christian) be so deceived?” Think about it though. It feeds the flesh. Who can recognize that?!Only the Bereans of today can truly recognize this evil around them. Jesus warned us it would get really bad before His return.

Christian, if you’re practicing Contemplative prayer, you are literally playing with fire.

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It’s time for Christians to open their eyes.

Why did Jesus wash people’s feet?

How does He want us to do the same since people are in shoes these days (locally)?

Deception Recognition in Prophecy

The flesh just loves a “good word” from someone indicating it’s coming straight from the Throne… So the question arises, what IS true prophecy?

And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See you do it not: I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS is the spirit of prophecy. KJV

So what’s lacking in “prophecies” spoken in today’s world? As spiritual adultery increases in the church, false prophets are HIGHLY sought after speakers, and as Christians accept more and more of these false teachings, MANY are falling away, believing in a phony “faith”. Since we have been warned, we need to really know how to discern false prophecy.

“A prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, ‘How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?’ If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously…”
Deut. 18: 20-22

So what’s an easy way to distinguish the good from the bad? Especially in the signs and wonders camp…

And what if it DOES come true? Aren’t we specifically warned that near the End of the Age many will show GREAT signs and wonders? What then? Are signs and wonders “fruit”? Effective witchcraft is not the “fruit” we are to look for Gal. 5: 22-23. (Take a moment to look that one up.) Signs and wonders are not to be what we’re looking for. Matt 16:4. Does the prophet CALL FOR REPENTANCE, for holiness and loyalty to Christ no matter what? Or is he/she giving us something that feels oh so good! but is instead leading us away from God?

Interns at IHOP, please, consider the parable of the foolish virgins whose lamps lacked oil.. Please, fill your lamps with Him and leave the rest behind. There is so much deception in the church today — and NO, your elders aren’t just from the “old school” because they’re not joining in with you. (I’m referring here to those labeled as “church goers”). What they are doing is reading their Bibles, praying their thoughts, concerns, joys and praises to God, and weeping over the lost needing to know Him. Please ask The Lord if that’s what He’d have you do as well.

Remember this: “They are counterfeits of the real thing, dishonest practitioners masquerading as the messengers of Christ. Nor do their tactics surprise me when I consider how Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is only to be expected that his agents shall have the appearance of ministers of righteousness–but they will get what they deserve in the end.
2 Cor 11:13-15

Please, fill your lamps. Evangelize the lost and humble yourselves in the site of the Lord. THEN He will lift you up. James 4:10

Are there good teachings/teachers at IHOP?

At first glance, IHOP is a good institution.

From their statement of beliefs: We believe that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. No ordinance, ritual, work or any other activity on the part of man is required or accepted in order to be saved. This saving grace of God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, also sanctifies us by enabling us to do what is pleasing in God’s sight in order that we might be progressively conformed to the image of Christ. (Jn. 1:12–13; 6:37–44; 10:25–30; Acts 16:30–31; Rom. 3:1–4:2; 8:1–17, 31–39; 10:8–10; Eph. 2:8–10; Phil. 2:12–13; Titus 3:3–7; 1 Jn. 1:7, 9)

Also included in their statement is this: We believe that the Church is God’s primary instrument, through which He is fulfilling His redemptive purposes in the earth. To equip the saints for the work of ministry, God has given the Church apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. We also affirm the priesthood of all believers and the importance of every Christian being joined with and actively involved in a local community of the saints. We believe that women, no less than men, are called and gifted to proclaim the gospel and do all the works of the kingdom. (Mt. 16:17–19; Acts 2:17–18, 42; Eph. 3:14–21; 4:11–16; 1 Tim. 2:11–15; Heb. 10:23–25; 1 Pet. 2:4–5, 9–10)

So far, so good — right?

Where non-biblical issues arise are where scripture is taken out of context whereby it ends up being twisted.

For example: Where is it listed in scripture that prophecy need not be 100% correct 100% of the time? Yet at IHOP, Mike Bickle has endorsed Bob Jones’ prophetic words numerous times while stating they were only 40-50-60% correct. And sometimes much less: Per Mike Bickle: “Some “prophetic words” may be 10 percent God’s words and 90 percent man’s words, while others have a greater revelatory content. On occasion God speaks to His servants in an audible voice. These are His “very words” that may be reported with a high degree of accuracy.”

(He is right about that “high degree of accuracy”. His message always demands 100% accuracy.)

“What I am trying to illustrate is that all prophecy today has a degree of mixture in it. Sometimes this yields a “mature” word that reflects more ideally what God would like to communicate, and sometimes it is communicated in a much-less-than-ideal fashion, yielding a “weak” word of lesser value, but still one that should not be despised.” – (Mike Bickle, The Difference Between Old and New Testament Prophecy)

Someone remind me — why isn’t Bob at IHOP anymore? And that is but one example. There are many. I am perplexed, however, by undocumented claims of wondrous works (yet no one can produce one shred of proof). I’ve recently read and heard IHOPpers claiming someone has been “raised from the dead” yet where is this person? No one knows. That reminds me of Todd Bentley…but I digress.

Then there’s the claim that Mike Bickle lives on a pauper’s salary and in a pauper’s house. Yet his wife, Diane, founded Glad Heart Realty and let me add here, that Glad Heart Realty’s list of Realtors reads like a list off of IHOP’s Who’s Who. So Diane is making a great salary off the company she founded — right? This would include the purchase of IHOP and its facilities as well — correct? So let’s pretend IHOP goes under. Let’s pretend it gets closed down for whatever reason — the government storms in (!), it quits paying its bills, or how about Mike tells everyone he is following some new direction from God! (YES, I’m being very sarcastic here..) and the place closes its doors. WHO gets the money when everything’s liquidated? IHOP is in whose name? Even more thought provoking than that is the question: WHERE are all those commission royalties right now? If they’re in the bank, the IRS is taxing them — but IHOP is a non-profit so whose bank are they in? It sure isn’t in the U.S. of A.

So back to the initial question in this post: Are there good teachers/teachings at IHOP? Answer? You betcha. Trouble is being able to distinguish between the good and the not so good isn’t always that easy. So what’s the scripturally best way to look at IHOP? I like Clark’s Commentary: James 3:11

Does a fountain send forth – sweet water and bitter? – In many things nature is a sure guide to man; but no such inconsistency is found in the natural world as this blessing and cursing in man. No fountain, at the same opening, sends forth sweet water and bitter; no fig tree can bear olive berries; no vine can bear figs; nor can the sea produce salt water and fresh from the same place. These are all contradictions, and indeed impossibilities, in nature. And it is depraved man alone that can act the monstrous part already referred to.

or from the God’s Word Translation:

Do clean and polluted water flow out of the same spring? The answer is NO.

So better to be safe than sorry — use His wisdom — BE the Berean from Acts 17:11 and stay far, far away from IHOP. Instead, ask The Lord to lead you to a place of His choosing. He is always faithful.

Question: What is the International House of Prayer (IHOP)?

Answer: The International House of Prayer- (IHOP) is a para-church ministry located in south Kansas City, Missouri. IHOP was founded by Mike Bickle in 1999. Its primary purpose seems to be international prayer of intercession. Since 1999, the International House of Prayer has experienced explosive growth, with the group acquiring significant amounts of property in Grandview, Missouri, and opening up satellite branches in other cities. The rapid expansion, the unusual practices, the fierce loyalty of many IHOP members, and the relative newness of the ministry have led many to question whether the International House of Prayer is a biblically-solid ministry or a cult.

At the International House of Prayer, there is active prayer taking place, literally 24/7, without interruption, and this has been the case for many years. 24/7 prayer is a good thing. There is no such thing as “praying too much,” so, in this area, IHOP is to be commended. The problem arises, however, in the type of prayer that is taking place. The International House of Prayer has adopted many of the practices of the contemplative prayer movement, with much more focus on mystcism and contemplative spirituality than on worshipping the Lord in prayer and interceding for others through prayer. Some elements of the IHOP employ prayer in a Word-Faith manner, claiming things from God rather than submitting to God’s will in humility.  So, while 24/7 prayer is commendable, if the prayers being uttered are not biblical, there is no true value in them.

Another concern with the International House of Prayer is its connection with the prophetic movement in general, and the Kansas City Prophets specifically. Instead of a biblical understanding of prophecy, that is, declaring the truth that God has revealed, IHOP essentially views prophets as Christian psychics, with prophetic hotlines, prophetic readings, and an emphasis on personal prophecy. Many have been led astray by those claiming to be apostles and prophets with a “word from the Lord.” There have been many reports of spiritual abuse and prophetic manipulation within the International House of Prayer movement.

This misunderstanding of the gift of prophecy leads to another area of concern. The International House of Prayer has an extreme over-emphasis on the miraculous gifts of the Spirit. Much has already been written on the cessation of the miraculous gifts, but IHOP’s use of these gifts goes far beyond what most Charismatics and Pentecostals will accept. At IHOP, the miraculous gifts of the Spirit are expected to be commonplace. Miraculous healings, visions, dreams, prophecies, tongues, words of knowledge, signs, wonders, etc., are claimed to be constant within the ministries of IHOP. Whether full cessationism is accepted or not, IHOP’s claims regarding the gifts of the Spirit do not at all agree with what the Bible presents. In the New Testament, the miraculous gifts of the Spirit authenticated the teachings of the apostles (2 Corinthians 12:12). If miracles are normal, they cannot have an authenticating quality to them. IHOP’s claims regarding miracles do not agree with what the Bible teaches about miracles, signs, and wonders. We would all be wise to remember Jesus’ warning in Matthew 24:24, “For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.”

With all of that said, clearly IHOP should not be considered a biblically-sound ministry/organization. The above concerns are only the “tip of the iceberg” in comparison to some of the things that have been lreported by former IHOP members/participants.

Should the International House of Prayer movement be considered a cult? That is more difficult to answer. Generally speaking, a cult is a group that has false teaching on one or more of the core truths of the Christian faith, such as the deity of Christ or salvation
by faith alone. On these core truths, IHOP appears to be solid and biblical. However, other common identifying factors of a cult are present at IHOP, such as it being controlled primarily be one individual, fierce loyalty to the organization, communal living, and a feeling of superiority over the uninitiated. That last point is undeniable as so many IHOP inductees have written into this (and other) blogs with a blatently elitest attitude — many times referring to other believers in Christ as “dead”, “without faith”, “religious” simply because they “only attend some dead, protestant church”.  So, while the International House of Prayer should probably not be considered a cult by definition, there are enough serious concerns about its beliefs and practices that should prevent Christians from getting involved in its ministries as, more likely than not, IHOP is most certainly a cult.

Many thanks to “Got Questions?” Ministry for this article.

An Open Call to All EX- IHOPers

Reblogged from Truthspeaker's Weblog:

I am sending out an open call to all former IHOP members who disagree with Jennifer LaClaire of Charisma Magazine and Mike Bickle, that IHOP is not a cult.   Please look over Mike's 7 Charistics of a cult and write a comment telling Mike and Jennifer how any or all of these characteristics affected you personally.    I will post your responses in a future blog post.

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If you're ex-IHOP, this story's for you. Hope to hear from you - either hear or on Truthspeaker's blog. It's time for us all - ALL - to be Bereans. Acts 17:10-11

A Response to Charisma Magazine’s Defense of IHOP

From Truthspeaker:

What follows is an impassioned response to Chrarisma Magazine’s editor Jennifer LeClaire,  who wrote a  recent  OPINION piece in defense of IHOP being a cult, which was published twice under the following titles:  Would You Recognize a Christian Cult if You Were In One? and  IHOP Kansas City Is Not a Cult, but Cults Are Rising. (Printing it TWICE under two different titles??  They must REALLY want to get the word out there!!….. Just makes my cynical self wonder how much money exchanged hands.)

IHOP and the Bethany Deaton Case Answering NAR “Prophetess” Jennifer LeClaire By NOLR History

Who is Jennifer LeClaire???

She is: 1) Latter Rain “Prophetess” 2) Charisma Magazine Senior Editor 3) IHOP-Fort Lauderdale leader 4) Pastor of Praise Chapel Hollywood 5) Former Southern Baptist 6) Former Mormon 7) Author of several Latter Rain books dealing with “Five-Fold” and “Jezebel” themes 8) Spiritual DNA Activation provocateur

Jennifer LeClaire’s current article for Charisma is a rebuttal to the substantial (and well-documented) accusations that IHOP is a cult. Jennifer’s testimony includes being abandoned by her Mormon husband as well as being incarcerated in prison, only to be later exonerated. Her testimony is a classic “gutter-to-Jesus” testimony so common to 10s of 1000s of people coming out of “sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll during the Jesus People Movement of the 70s, who today are caught up in the NAR/ICA movement that systematically took over the Charismatic/Pentecostal churches in the 90s.

Her rebuttal article: Jennifer L. LeClaire. “IHOP Kansas City Is Not a Cult, but Cults Are Rising” CharismaNews, Nov. 29, 2012. The Question

“Is IHOP-KC a cult along with all the other ministries that IHOP-KC trains at their Kansas City-base compound?”

Jennifer LeClair uses Mike Bickle’s lecture on the Cults: 7-Characteristics lecture which was used in response to the outcry by concerned parents, law enforcement, and others in the Kansas City area after baby Jeremiah Candler was starved to death.

The Answer

Well, as a matter of fact, yes! All members and daughter “ministries” who have learned the very same false doctrines that Latter Rain leader Jennifer LeClaire promotes have all the “7 Characteristics of Cults” as described above plus a lot more. You might think progress could be made now that Bickle, LeClaire, and countless other Latter Rain false leaders have openly identified themselves as being a cult movement by spelling out their characteristics. The New Order of the Latter Rain (NOLR) is the beginning name for this cult that started after WWII. Later, it was re-formulated in the 90s by Fuller Theological Prof. and “Super Apostle” C. Peter Wagner as the “New Apostolic Reformation” (NAR) led by the “Int’l Coalition of Apostles” (ICA).

Jennifer LeClaire went directly from the frying pan right into the fire. The communist party calls such party members “Useful Idiots.” Jennifer LeClaire becomes a “Useful Idiot” for the Kabbalist NAR and appears to be unwittingly prepped through her former role as a Mormon wife.

The current Deaton case is another of a long list of documents crimes committed by the “restored Melchizedeck Priesthood (a/k/a “Apostles and Prophets”) movement. The NAR has defrauded millions of lives, fortunes, and sacred honor by the false leaders who formulated the Discipleship/Shepherding scheme in the late 70s and 80s. Perhaps the NAR leaders can rally the “best of the best” Latter Rain “Apostles and Prophets” and raise Bethany Deaton from the dead so she can tell the court who murdered her and spare the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s Office from continuing with a very expensive autopsy. Will NAR leaders like Mike Bickle bring out all the miracle-working “anointed” prophets and apostles?? Will they stir up their “anointing” and prove to the world there are a legitimate expression of orthodox Christianity as they say they are? Will they invoke angel feathers and gold teeth and leg lengthening miracles. Let’s see that “Full-Gospel” alchemy turn lead into gold!! Get Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn to conjure up their “Breaker Anointing” !!! Get Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Wilford “Bill” Hamon and his best-of-the-best “Prophetic Teams” trained exclusively at his Santa Rosa Beach, FL “School for the Prophets” to join with Joyner’s MorningStar Zinzendorf compound. Bring in Dave Vaughan of Emerge Wales [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Ak7y6B_Iw], Peter Popoff, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, Mac Hammond, Wolf Eckman and his Livets Ord compound in Sweden, Ralph Martin, Steve Clark, Keith Major, etc. As Dutch Sheets preaches, surely the “synergistic anointing” will raise both Bethany Deaton and Jeremiah Candler from the dead, right? Can’t the NAR leaders cast a decree a Latter Rain spell on the Jackson County Judge presiding over the Bethany Deaton case?? Perhaps “prophetess” Stacey Campbell can shake her head (under “the anointing” of course…) and prophesy victory for the upcoming Jackson County indictment? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufJrdciaTo]

Didn’t Jennifer LeClaire graduate from the “Dream Interpretation” classes taught by John Paul Jackson, one of the “Kansas City Seven”??? Surely Jennifer LeClaire can “speak the Word” and prophetically dream her way to victory, right? IHOP and the rest of the NAR have made captive America’s youth in their “IHOP university” and other “School for the Prophets” compounds. [think “Harry Potter” Hogwarts academy] They are all over Canada, the USA, and Europe. Isn’t there some spell, allegory, or metaphor like “TheCall”, “OneThing”, “Jesus Culture” etc. that NAR/ICA leaders can conjure or skry toward providing “Vision” and “Destiny” so as to augment their “Seven Mountain Mandate” in their quest for World Dominion”???? Maybe they could try burning or cutting themselves like the Prophets of Baal as played out in I Kings 18:25???

Couldn’t Jennifer try Latter Rain magic used by Cindy Jacobs, et al. by putting scriptures on wooden stakes, pounding them around Jackson County Courthouse and making a “decree to the four winds” by saying “Thus saith the Lord”?? George Otis, Jr. and YWAM said their magic caused “Transformations” in various South American countries resulting in the harvest of gigantic miracle vegetables and caused the crime rate to be reduced so a new utopian society would emerge like a Phoenix from the ashes of Adam’s curse.[see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqY29Fbu8M%5D

Wait! That’s it!! Let the NAR make up a new “Phoenix Breaker Anointing” !!! Couple that with 40-days of intense fasting and surely that will resurrect Jeremiah Candler and Bethany Deaton from the dead, right? Wouldn’t Jennifer agree with that? Surely Chuck Pierce and Robert Heidler at Glory of Zion Ministries and/or Global Spheres (or other assumed names they operate under) can use more Kabbalah gematria to prophesie themselves to “Victory”, right? [http://web.archive.org/web/20100114165314/http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/chuck-pierce-robert-heidler-respond-to-kabbalah-charge/] Why not get it together with the Black NAR “Apostles and Prophets” like Miles Munroe and pedophile “Bishop” Eddie Long who was recently born-again and made a King using ritual magic incorporating an “Auschwitz Torah” by Messianic Rabbi Ralph Messer [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVkoQHCXSK8]. Too bad Lubavitcher “Rabbi” Menachem Youlus, who sold Messer this “priceless scroll,” was convicted and is now in prison for Scroll fraud. [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095879/Jewish-Indiana-Jones-Menachem-Youlus-faces-jail-1m-fraud.html] But it’s the Word-of-Faith neoplatonic thought that counts, right? Speak it! Believe it! It will happen!! Eddie Long is now a King and to believe otherwise you must be a “conspiracy theorist” or be “in rebellion to Apostolic authority”, right??

Too bad Latter Rain Pastor Zachery Tims couldn’t join too, but he took too much “anointing” powder at the W Hotel on Broadway… [http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/205837/19/Florida-pastor-Zachery-Tims-found-dead-in-NYC-hotel-room ] Surely NAR New Zealand NAR “Bishop” Brian Tamaki [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Tamaki ] with his “700-Mighty Men” who made a marriage covenant with “Bishop” Tamaki who in turn previously made a spiritual marriage covenant with “Bishop” Eddie Long who in turn made a spiritual marriage covenant with Earl Paulk who died shortly after being convicted in court for adultery and fathering his son through a relationshp with his sister in law. [see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/us/04paulk.html ]

Perhaps you can join with “Prophetic presbytery teams” along with the NAR multi-compound at Gateway Church in Southlake, TX. [http://gatewaypeople.com]

Just thinking of all these NAR/ICA opportunities to “change the face of Christianity” just makes me quiver!

The “Adam-Kadmon” or “Grand Man” found in LDS, Freemasonry, Swedenborg, Rosicrucians and other Synagogues of Satan is the real doctrinal entity behind the “One New Man” of the Latter Rain. You cloak your cult with cleverly-hidden multiple definitions for the same terms. This is a “Cult Characteristic” that Bickle deliberately failed to add to his “7 Characteristics.”

Christ died at Calvary to deliver real Christians *FROM* what “Pastor” Jennifer LeClaire is now entrenched with, not so they could join into this Invisible Basilica. NAR leaders have duped millions of people! Jennifer didn’t learn from her lesson with LDS. She is on a sinking ship that is going down fast!! She is leading countless youth into the eternal Lake of Fire and God has no other choice but to Judge her and the rest of the NAR false prophets. Jennifer and her NAR associates like Steven Strang are all guilty of plagiarizing cult doctrines and practices that are well over 400-years old. They are “digging the wells” to hell. Game over. Wake Up Christians!! Jennifer LeClaire is an NAR cult leader and like Mike Bickle, she cleverly writes about cults and cult characteristics as a ploy to appear as being a genuine Christian! Nice try Jennifer, but it won’t work for you and it surely isn’t working for IHOP, especially with the Jackson County Court. The magistrates just aren’t buying the NAR/ICA magic show at IHOP-KC. Neither is God.

Contact Jennifer now and tell her the Latter Rain games are over:

Jennifer LeClaire Ministries PO Box 3953 Hallandale Beach, FL 33008 jennifer.leclaire@charismamedia.com

http://www.jenniferleclaire.org

References:

Christine Vendel. “Baby died from starvation, KC police say” Kansas City Star, Jan. 7, 2009.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/969265.html

Kendall, Justin. “Killa City: Parents of dead baby were IHOP members” Pitch [Kansas], Jan. 27 2009.

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2009/01/killa_city_parents_of_dead_bab.php#

“Court Date Delayed For Rebecca Candler: Jeremiah Candler Died Nov. 18” KMBC.com, April 20, 2009.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/19227050/detail.html

The Great Apostasy

This one hit the nail on the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UaPCxDtUZXo

(Short video)

A Warning from God

They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the  Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.” Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I  am  indeed against you,” says the Lord God. (Ezekiel 13:6-8 NKJV)

The modern day ‘prophets’ take The Lord very lightly in saying their prophecies “don’t need to be 100% correct”.  Oh really?!!  I’m always amazed when people take our Holy God and make Him to be the same level as man.

“…yet they HOPE the word may be confirmed…”  Doesn’t that happen in many various places today and not just at IHOP? Heads up, brothers and sisters!  Don’t make light of God’s Word.  He plainly says, “Because you have spoken NONSENSE and envisioned LIES, therefore I am indeed AGAINST you.”

Bearing that in mind, do you really want to sit under a leader who tells you that “growing in the prophetic” is good? And prophecies don’t “HAVE to be 100% accurate to be from The Lord”?

Side note: I’ve always wondered where “Growing in the prophetic” is in God’s word..

The next time you hear a prophetic word, ask that person what GOD says about it – the word THEY have said, should it FAIL to come to pass.  If they tell you that ‘prophecy’ they’ve given ‘doesn’t need to be 100% accurate’, share Ezekiel 18 with them.  If they still say it doesn’t need to be 100% correct, run, don’t walk, away from them.  They’ve made themselves ‘bigger than God’ in their own eyes and He really looks down on that…

NY Times Looking for Info on Deaton Murder / IHOP

From Truthspeaker’s Weblog NY Times Looking for Info on Deaton Murder / IHOP by truthspeaker This was a recent comment.  Anyone who wishes to contact the reporter her info is below.  Thanks! Hi All, greetings to you. I am a national correspondent at the New York Times. I’m trying to understand as much as I can both the Bethany Deaton case and the group led by Tyler Deaton for a story. I’d be very interested in talking to anyone who has information about Tyler’s group or his involvement — or the involvement of other group members — with IHOP (also, I’d love to hear all sides of the debate that’s taking place on this blog). I’m in Kansas City at the moment and could meet with anyone who was willing to talk to me or talk by phone. You can reach me atgoode@nytimes.com or call me at 916-952-9031. Thanks very much. Erica Goode