IHOP & Bethany Deaton…

Nice going, IHOP. Looks like CBS managed to stay away from reporting on you, the root cause of Bethany Deaton’s death.

Anybody watching this, who agrees with me, send an email to CBS and tell them to investigate IHOP.

It is physically impossible to slowly suffocate oneself. Your mind will not allow it to happen. It’s physically impossible for a swimmer to drown because their mind won’t allow them to do it. Bethany Deaton could not possibly suffocate herself. That is physically impossible. …yet she died with her eyes open and the bag inhaled into her mouth….

Write CBS and have them do an investigation into the control that IHOP has over it’s “interns”.

Families getting cut off?!!? That is oh so typical of IHOP. I have been through it and know from firsthand experience.

Baby, if you’re nodding your head and saying, “Yeah! It’s great!”, then you are drunk in the wrong spirit.

In 2010 there was an “outpouring of the Holy Spirit” on the IHOP [International House of Prayer] webstream and boy, did that turn sour fast. Aside from the singing on the first night, everything was just messed up. AHH! It’s breaking my heart! How many people do we know and love in Kansas City?!
People would laugh uncontrollably, jerk as though sick, stumble and speak as though drunk, and “sing in tongues” in complete chaos and without interpretation.
Someone tell me – where is “drunk in the Spirit” in the bible? After all.. Isn’t God for self-control?
IHOP does agree with that, but still to this day (2014) they continue to act like drunken fools! See Titus 1:8 and 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 which compared in the NKJV and NIV relates self-control with being sober, pointing to the fact that the Holy Spirit is not one who takes delight in being drunk at all, but in being sober-minded – fruit of the Spirit, what? Drunkenness is the complete opposite of being filled with the Holy Spirit! For sober-mindedness is a filling of Him!; 1 Peter 1:13, 4:7, and 5:8 … (Derek Prince)

Christianity, in places like IHOP, has become a feel-good type of ‘retreat’. Like oh wow!, You can really feel God move there! But you see, THAT is the problem. The focus becomes “you”. What do “you” get out of it?

WHERE is the repentance? Where is the conviction? And now the final question: WHY have there been so many deaths related to IHOP?

IHOPers will explain away every terrible thing that has ever happened , or that has even remotely been related to IHOP, (Bethany Deaton), but doesn’t anyone care that their IHOP ‘ministry’ has been connected to these events? WHERE is the discernment? Why so much denial from the top?

IHOP swept Bob Jones, who had female IHOP interns stand butt-naked before God…. (and himself) …while in his IHOP office….. under the proverbial rug. OK. So Bob got booted out…. (That would’ve been bad publicity if it had gone on.). But that was a LONG time ago! 80% of the interns that are there now have absolutely no idea that Bob was ever there. It might even be 90% now… So IHOP life goes on. No one talks about it, no one I’m just about in tears over all of this…
May and I watched the very first nights of the recent “outpouring of the Holy Spirit” on the IHOP [International House of Prayer] webstream and boy, did that turn sour fast. Aside from the singing on the first night, everything was just messed up. AHH! It’s breaking my heart! How many people do we know and love in Kansas City?!
I’ve watched my beloved siblings laugh uncontrollably, jerk as though sick, stumble and speak as though drunk, and “sing in tongues” in complete chaos and without interpretation. I’ve raised the issue among friends of being “drunk in the Spirit” and even though I prove over and over that God is for self-control, which they agree with, they continue to act like drunken fools! See Titus 1:8 and 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 which compared in the NKJV and NIV relates self-control with being sober, pointing to the fact that the Holy Spirit is not one who takes delight in being drunk at all, but in being sober-minded – fruit of the Spirit, what? Drunkenness is the complete opposite of being filled with the Holy Spirit! For sober-mindedness is a filling of Him!; 1 Peter 1:13, 4:7, and 5:8 …hears about it, and no one ever knows that something very bad occurred there. That leftover percentage of people who DO know about it have kept it very well covered up.

Then comes Paul Cain. Paul ‘ministered’ at IHOP when Bob was there — only Paul liked to ‘minister’ to male interns (also sexually). So Paul got booted out also. And again, IHOP life goes on! The people who were there when it all happened, they don’t say one word about it.

Yes. I hear some of you saying we’re not supposed to throw stones, or we’re not supposed to touch God’s anointed…

Has anyone ever heard of a false spirit? How about a false anointing? MIKE BICKLE – where is the weeping with repentance??

People, why is it that IHOP, Bethel, Joel Osteen, and SO many other big name speakers/teachers/retreats are so popular?! It’s because there is NO repentance preached – (except on tithing). Oh! And that’s because God wants only the BEST for you! (Uch, ugh! I’m gagging..)

How many families have been torn in two – thanks to the false teachers and the ones who’ll believe anything that makes them feel good?

The bigger the church, the better it must be. Right?! Someone tell me then, why does God’s word say that “narrow” is the path that leads to Him despite it being a very wide path!?

Christians have begun going for the “feel good”, wherever they go. I would imagine that God is weeping. He did warn us in his Word though, didn’t He? So how’s your “one-on-One” time with God these days? Having any “conviction”? If you’re connected with anything even remotely like these ‘ministries’ I’m discussing, I recommend you shop around somewhere else…

Putting it plainly, if you are a part of IHOP, you have been very, very deceived. ANY ministry that in anyway promotes mystical experience, ANY ministry that does that, is teaching false teachings. And if you’re buying into it, then you are being deceived.

Store up your riches? Shoot-yeah!
But not down here! Wake up you sleeper! Open your eyes! Quit swallowing everything you hear and match it up against God’s Word.

Attacked Like Never Before

I don’t know if this is happening to anyone else, but I have been under the most severe spiritual attack I have ever been in during in my 30+ years of Christian living.

Part of me says, “I cannot go on any longer”. Then the other part of me says, “Oh yes. I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.” Needless to say, I am sticking with the portion of me that rests upon Christ.

Before I became a believer, not only was I a drug addict but I also had the ‘mouth of a sailor’. Nes pas? In moments of anger recently, I have heard words come out of my mouth that have not escaped from it for the past 30+ years! This is in spite of knowing how much it displeases my Heavenly Father!
In spite of all this, however, I do not question my salvation! Instead, I see this as a very intense attack by Satan.

The unfortunate part about this is that it seems as though it never stops. Not for the past ten months. It just keeps going and going. The attack is not only at work, but also at home and even in my sleep at night. I go to bed exhausted and I wake up feeling even more exhausted. It literally feels endless.

I don’t actually know why I’m bothering to post this, as I have not spoken to anyone about it – so you are the ones that I’m sharing this with – why? I don’t know.

I know that when the enemy comes in like a flood God will raise up a standard against him. So I am now waiting for that standard to be raised up on my behalf.

ALL of this began very shortly after beginning a new ministry in my area. I won’t go into details, but let’s just say the ministry is for those people who are literally unable to go to church. I’ll leave it at that.

Your prayers and/or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Let me add a P.S.
My stand against the enemy will never change. Additionally, unless the Lord tells me to, my comments and my posts about IHOP will NOT stop. I will always take a stand against New Age teaching. This is because New Age teaching, which is also at IHOP, is firmly against the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. So that’s it for now.


One day this week: It’s 11 a.m. today (I’m at work) with Lincoln Brewster on the small Bose-type stereo they allow me to play in my office. He is belting out, “All the Earth Will Sing Your Praises”.

So I was doing a type of testing with an employee who’d just arrived. I noticed she was in sandals and street clothes and had some type of charm around her neck. I asked her if she was on her day off. She was very sweet, from India, and replied that, “yes” she was on an off day. I couldn’t believe someone would come into the heart of the city on their day off for testing like that. She went on to say that she had listened to relaxing music when she was driving into the city so that made coming in through the traffic easy….and that she had also “done very deep meditation” before leaving the house…

Per company policy: I am not to discuss “anything spiritual” at work. If someone disregards that rule, they lose their job. Well The Holy Spirit really, really, really stirred within me and I heard myself saying, “Well you know what. ‘Chee’? I listen to my Bible when I drive into work. (This was followed by an official ‘pregnant pause’… I heard myself saying next, “Then, if there’s time, I turn on Pandora and listen to Christian music — much like the song that you hear playing right now.” (By this time “Third Day” was singing ‘God of Wonders’). Now I hear myself saying, “After spending that time, I walk through my day with a peace that passes understanding.” (I purposefully left out praying…. because… The Holy Spirit just zip-locked my mouth right at that moment. Why? I don’t know.

She then gave me a smile acknowledging what I’d said..and said, ‘goodbye and thank you’ as she left.

Friends, she is not a Christian and as she was leaving, walking down the hall, I immediately asked God to “Please send other believers in Christ to witness to ‘Chee'” That isn’t her real name, but I would ask all those who are lead by the Holy Spirit to please pray the same prayer for “Chee”.

A lot of churches get caught up in NUMBERS. E.g.. This many came to know the Lord this month.. or X number of people were baptized this quarter/year and etc.

God calls us to be SEED SOWERS. HE is the one who is over The Harvest. So today, seed was sown with Chee. TODAY, I am really asking for prayer for this person. “Chee” could be a VERY STRONG WITNESS for Christ among her friends and family. Please keep her in prayer.

In lieu of the fact that she is in touch with demonic entities via her “meditative” practices, I ask that you’d be in agreement with me that God would crush that stronghold and allow her eyes to be opened to His Truth. She was listening to very powerful Christian music for 10 straight minutes. She was able to witness the “peace” that was within me.

It doesn’t matter if she’s practicing meditation from the Buddhist faith or Contemplative prayer. They are literally the absolute same thing. A Christian who practices Contemplative may say, “no, no, no! I meditate upon Jesus.” Author after author has said, “for successful Contemplative prayer to work, your mind really has to enter an area of ‘nothingness'”. “Your mind cannot be focused on any one thing for it to work.” I’ve had multiple contemplatives tell me that right to my face. You don’t end up meditating on Him – you just end up emptying your mind of every outside influence — and allowing whatever entity is awaiting that open door, to enter in.

Pray for Chee. One day, we will see The Harvest. I hope to see Chee amongst those harvested.

Deception – Yea or Nay?

i took a moment to read about some of the IHOP lessons…
Let me say this – is isn’t a Mike Bickle issue. He is but one of the IHOP teachers who are taking God’s Holy Word and are shaping, molding and twisting it to fit into the spiritual journey they’re on.

I read a site on “medical meditation chakras” and thought, “Hmmm, that’s identical to what IHOP teaches for relaxation and breathing practices prior to going into contemplative prayer”.

If you open your mind, sweep out the old and just keep that door open, what do you think will walk they through that open door? (You got it!). Every evil entity imaginable will walk right in and set up house.

So it’s not just Mike Bickle teaching it. ALL the IHOP teachers are teaching and/or supporting encounters with supernatural beings via contemplative prayer. Read the rest of this entry

Contemplative Prayer And Its Origin


Well said.
Nowhere in scripture are we ever told to get into a relaxed body position when we pray. Additionally, we are not EVER told in scripture to slow our breathing or block out all external influences or “empty our minds”. I’ve heard from NEW believers that this “just isn’t in the bible to do this”! Yet those who’ve been in Christ for 30+years have been falling for it hook, line and sinker. Such OBVIOUS deception – and yet believers in Christ are buying into it.

Originally posted on DiscernIt:

Contemplative Prayer Movement and Its Origin
Published in the Christian Chronicle – By S. E. Ray – 06/18/06

There is a prayer practice that is becoming popular within the evangelical church. It is primarily known as Contemplative Prayer. It is also known as centering prayer, listening prayer, breath prayer, and prayer of the heart. The practice is now widely embraced and taught in secular and professed Christian seminaries, colleges, universities, organizations, ministries and seminars throughout the United States. Academic promoters have introduced these practices into the fields of medicine; business and law while countless secular and Christian books, magazines, seminars, and retreats are teaching lay people how to incorporate them into their daily lives. Promoters promise physical, mental and spiritual benefits desiring to bring about positive social change.

The essential function of contemplative prayer is to enter an altered state of consciousness in order to find one’s true self, thus striving…

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IHOP & The Rolling Stone Mag. — Oh yeah – IHOP is definitely a cult

Hitting the news: THE TRUTH about IHOP (despite the Rolling Stone writing it about Tyler Deaton’s IHOP antics).


Oh yeah, it’s long but well worth the read.

Interesting facts noted about IHOPers cutting off ties with family members who try and pull them away from Bickle’s teachings..

And why, after reading this, would anyone with any ability to reason think, even for a moment, that IHOP was not a cult?

The Lord is having me post this

I’m dear, dear friends with a sister in Christ that some of you know: Truthspeaker .
Please pray about giving her any monetary support you can.

She and her husband are currently in very dire need as they have lost everything they have. (It’s a long story, and I’ll let her be the one to share it eventually.)
She will not ask, but I’m asking for her.

Please send any help you can Contact me for her address. Thank you!

James 2:14-17 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

When the enemy comes in like a flood, God will raise up a standard against Him. Isaiah 59:19



After joining a Word of Faith church 30+ years ago,  I remember thinking, “My parents (who loved the Lord), would have really gone places (with God) if they would have known about some of the things I’m learning.  But they just did CHURCH!  They didn’t really know how to BE with God.”  

(Yes, God eventually opened my eyes to the deception I’d bought into – and graciously forgave me.) 

Now, however, I hear these same thoughts from IHOP people all the time. (Yes, some of you don’t get published. If your comment is hateful, it gets trashed.)

I truly did love the Word of Faith messages I heard. (I wonder if anyone realizes that IHOP is promoting the same WOF theology and then some?)

I would walk away from church feeling powerful!  I knew that I had the power to speak God’s word over (whatever the situation was) and then I could EXPECT to SEE a change!  I could speak to my checkbook and command finances to increase! I could EXPECT everything in my life to line up ( ! ) with God’s word! And blah, blah, blah…  I’m embarrassed just thinking about it.

So what made me think what I was learning was the real deal?!?  WHY did I love it so much?  WHY do the kids at IHOP think that they have learned “the” truth?!  Why do they love IHOP teachings so much?  [And please note, I am not mixing Jesus, God’s Son, in with my question about IHOP.  That question was strictly referring to IHOP and nothing else.]  WHY do the IHOP interns believe that “they” have something that the rest of the Christian world has missed out on?

It’s that flesh thing.  The Word of Faith message I heard years ago fed my flesh like none other.  Mike Bickle is in desperate need of having his eyes opened to the deception that he has bought into.  The CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER he teaches doesn’t feed the spirit-man — it feeds the FLESH.  Instead of walking away from prayer time feeling washed and clean, the person who has been practicing it walks away feeling ‘a little bit taller’ (spiritually), and then in comes that feeling of “spiritual superiority” over those who only pray the old fashioned way.

I write this with great humility.  I write this in obedience to Him.  This teaching alone, leads believers in Christ down a sensual, demonic path.

I read a story from Lighthouse Trails that I wanted to share.  It’s not just IHOP that’s being deceived.  It’s happening everywhere, but God warned us the deception in the end times would be great – didn’t He.  I’ve shortened this letter but it is available at teh Lighthouse Trails website.

To Lighthouse Trails:

I’m a new student at __________College in ___________ Canada. The President   of the College himself teaches the Spiritual  Formation classes.

The Lord delivered me out of 30 years of spiritual seeking last year (where I tasted of and practiced just about every spirituality and philosophy and   practice on the planet) and brought me to salvation. You can imagine my surprise, if not shock, when in class the spiritual exercises the prof was teaching seemed like nothing so much as repackaged New Age stuff. I bought Ray [Yungen’s] PDF A Time of Departing a few days ago from you. It completely confirms my impressions. My professor, also the president of the university, is such a gracious caring man . . .  who knows his Bible cold – what a deception!

collegesstairsCould you send me Ray’s other book For Many Shall Come in My Name, the e-book version? [I] am right in the middle of a paper for this prof. I’m trying to line my ducks up in a row and state my case, as far as I can as a new Christian. I’m going to call for him to repent and need to be clear on what I’m saying. No idea how this will affect my academics, and will leave that in the Lord’s hands.

You might want to add ______________College to your [Contemplative Colleges]  list.

Part of my testimony is that I was adopted into the family of the chief medicine man of the Lakota nation (my own natural father abandoned when I was 5)  and intensively practiced aboriginal ceremony for 13 years.

Praise the Lord God! The victory is His! Amen!

No question about it in my mind – this is the great falling away happening   before our eyes. I was also once a member of the Anthroposophical Society – an offshoot of the Theosophical society. The mystical Christ being preached  more and more is the same as the  anthroposophical Christ taught by Rudolf  Steiner, a gnostic version of Christ.

Paul was serious when he said that those who teach and follow this other gospel, this other Christ, will be accursed.

In Christ,

Stephen (not real name)

IHOP students & interns – wake up!  You are making a choice to believe a different gospel!  But if you ever chose to leave IHOP, you would end up losing all your IHOP friends — After all, it’s the unwritten rule at IHOP to cut off all contact with anyone who leaves or disagrees with IHOP doctrine. 

I’m still waiting for someone to show me where contemplative prayer is listed in scripture.. 


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