Scripturally backed…..Cults???

Jesus warned, “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. “You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? “Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” (Matt. 7:15-20)

Jesus warns about those who come to people trying to have them join with them in their pursuit of God. How do you tell a “good” group from a bad one?  Always check how these groups seek after people to make them a disciple. It is what they teach about God and Christ that counts.

What is confusing is that they have you become a member of their Church or organization. Instead of coming to Christ and become part of the body of Christ which puts you in the Church (universal). They’ll tell you that you’re a “part of the body of Christ” but you’re actually treated as though you’re separate – special – above the rest – ahead of the others.

Jesus warns about those coming from within the church that would actually tear it apart. This would be done by what they teach which would be patently false. Since they are in the Church, they would teach from the bible but distort its meaning.

If your child or friend has joined a church or an organization that now has taken up all his time.  That he or she has just informed you that he wants to move out from your home and move in with the members, move away — you name it.  If this person has suddenly began “distancing” themself from you, your family or group of friends, or if he has given up his goals and the aspirations he had to further his education very quickly after joining. Or he dropped the sports that he has always practiced. If he starts speaking different lingo and does not share what it means or says. Or he says you won’t understand why he is doing these new things. He starts to dress differently and loses interest quickly in his oldest friends. Anytime there is a very quick change in personality and lifestyle influenced by the new group they are attending and they cannot explain or share the reasons. These are all warning signs that cult like changes have begun.

Everyone should be able to give rational explanations for change especially if it is the Lords doing. If you’re already faced with your child joining there are some basic guidelines to follow. The first thing you need to do is avoid pushing them make a decision to leave. The reason for this is that they are probably being told this will happen from their parents and friend’s, so they look upon this as Satan attacking, so be as patient and understanding as possible even if you know that where they are and what they’re doing is wrong.

Scriptures are often used about leaving your family or Christ came to divide.

I suddenly find myself thinking of IHOP…. While these are all true they need to be interpreted right. Groups often bring biblical teaching to an extreme. You can show them other passages like Jesus taking care of his own mother giving her over into hands of John even from the cross (Jn.19) 

Paul says in Eph.6:2, “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise. What is meant is that a family that is non believers is not to have hold over one that believes and influence toward ungodliness.

What happens is that cults divide a family that was once together as believers – (I’m thinking of IHOP again)  – which is certainly not the intent of the passages used in Mk.10:29; Lk.12:53   As Jesus said about his family being there to see him. Luke 8:21″But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”  He didn’t separate from his blood family, but explained the true meaning of family and their relationship to God. Certainly Mary his mother obeyed God, yet his brothers and sisters were non believers until after the resurrection (James and Jude).

It was John the Baptists ministry to prepare the people for the Messiah. Luke 1:17 “He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’ and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” Notice that there is to be reconciliation.   This is a partial quote from Mal.4:5 which further states and…” the hearts of the children to their fathers”… reconciliation of the family. its message.

 As Paul states in 2 Cor.11:13-15 they are false apostles and messengers looking like those who teach righteousness. They may look good on the outside but the life of Christ is not there on the inside and their message will always be with scripture, but distort its meaning. Their focus will be their church or organization instead of Christ.

Jude 1:12: “These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots;” Twice dead is like a tree that was dug up to be transplanted and died and then dug up again.   Rom 6:22: ” But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. James 3:18   “Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.”  Jesus said blessed are the peace makers. Those who bring the same message of reconciliation to have people make peace with God.

Jesus made the point of saying he is the true manna come down from heaven. Eating his sayings gives life, “my words are Spirit and they are life.” On the other hand Leaven is used of sin or false teaching Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees Jesus said. They were very religious but did not understand the true teachings they espoused. They lifted up mans teachings before Gods, they were dependent on their works to be righteous.

If a Church or group points to its founder and promotes him as the restorer of truth or gives you the impression that they’re “head and shoulders” above all the other groups because of their new revelations, they are making the same mistake the Pharisees did by following mans leadership. They do not follow the true shepherd but other shepherds but believe that in following this “sheperd” that they are actually walking very closely to God.  Or if the groups’ leadership constantly sites their one-on-one meetings they’ve had with God as the grounds for their beliefs, watch out.

If your child has joined a church that now has taken up all his time. That he or she has just informed you that he wants to move out from your home and move in with the members. If he has given up his goals and the aspirations he had to further his education very quickly after joining. Or he dropped the sports that he has always practiced. If he starts speaking a different lingo and does not share what it means or says. Or he says you just won’t understand why he is doing these new things!  He starts to dress differently and loses interest quickly in his oldest friends. Anytime there is a very quick change in personality and lifestyle influenced by the new group they are attending and they cannot explain or share the reasons. These are all warning signs that cult like changes have begun.

Everyone should be able to give rational explanations for change especially if it is the Lords doing. If you’re already faced with your child joining there are some basic guidelines to follow. The first thing one needs to do is avoid pushing them to make a decision to leave. The reason for this is that they are probably being told this will happen from their parents and friend’s, so they look upon this as Satan attacking. You’ll need to be as patient and understanding as possible even if they know it is wrong.  You can fill up your free time with plenty of prayer!

Scriptures are often used about leaving your family or Christ came to divide. While these are all true they need to be interpreted right. Groups often bring biblical teaching to an extreme. If they’ll still speak with you, you can show them other passages like Jesus taking care of his own mother giving her over into hands of John even from the cross (Jn.19) Paul says in Eph.6:2, “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise. What is meant is that a family that is non believers is not to have hold over one that believes and influence toward ungodliness. What happens is that cults divide a family that was once together as believers which is certainly not the intent of the passages used in Mk.10:29; Lk.12:53 As Jesus said about his family being there to see him. Luke 8:21″But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”

Jesus didn’t separate from his blood family, but explained the true meaning of family and their relationship to God. Certainly Mary his mother obeyed God, yet his brothers and sisters were non believers until after the resurrection (James and Jude). It was John the Baptists ministry to prepare the people for the Messiah. Luke 1:17  “He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’ and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” Notice that there is to be reconciliation. This is a partial quote from Mal.4:5 which further states and…” the hearts of the children to their fathers”… reconciliation of the family.

There is plenty more on this topic and we’ll discuss it as time goes by – just know that if you’ve got a friend or family member who have changed like what has been discussed here since joining a ‘new group’, then there is every possibility that the group they’ve joined is a cult.  Also know that just because a group/organization calls itself “Christian” does not mean that’s what it actually is.   As discussed here, cults are very quick to use scripture to ‘back up’ their beliefs and practices.  Instead of just listening to their beliefs, always look at their fruit.   A good tree will always produce good fruit.  The good fruit will reproduce more good fruit.

There’s the thought for the day – Be Blessed.

Many thanks from Let Us Reason for much of this material.

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About annunk

I have seen too many believers in Christ falling into the trap of practicing "Christianized New Age" and still calling it holy. Contemplative prayer is nothing more ( or less) than TM. Totally unscriptural. I encourage anyone who's interested in knowing the truth of God's word to dig in daily and SEARCH - be like the Bereans - FIND OUT if the teachings, messages, books you've read or radio speakers you've heard are dissecting God's word correctly. If they're not, throw out what you've heard. Trash it. God demands we STUDY to show ourselves approved. BE a Berean. Acts 17: 10-11

Posted on November 17, 2010, in cult, False prophets, IHOP, Mike Bickle, New Age, Transcendental Meditation and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 4 Comments.

  1. Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

    Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

    Luke 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

  2. Marcusmaxis,

    That scripture is talking about belivers vs. unbelievers. You’re focusing in on the father against son/mother against daughter portion and saying, “Oh that’s ok then. It’s OK for IHOP people to stand against those who disagree with them because THEY believe the truth.”

    Be sure to let me know if I’ve misread the intent of your scriptural post..

    Your focus should be on the WHY portion. WHY would a house be divided? Because one follows Jesus’ teachings and the other doesn’t. IHOP bases its beliefs on the “lessons about the Word” that are interpreted and preached, rather than THE WORD itself.

    What I’m saying is that instead of studying to shew yourself approved, you’re going by what Mike Bickle and others have taught at IHOP.

    That’s very shakey ground to stand on..

  3. p.s. Anything you’re doing/believing that causes you to walk outside of walking in love is not of God.

    Outside of walking in love, you’ve become a noisy symbol…just a lot of noise…

  4. No i disagree with ihop teachings all together. Im just pointing out that people and doctrine is always going to differ and there is nothing anyone can do about it. False doctrine and false believers are here to stay until Jesus Christ returns when proper teaching and doctrine will be returned and truth will be available for everyone.
    Cheers

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