TOUCH NOT GOD’S ANOINTED!

TOUCH NOT GOD’S ANOINTED!  Now that’s a phrase that’s been used in an attempt to keep the trouble makers quiet…

“And |David| said to his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing to my master, the LORD’s anointed, to stretch forth my hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.” 1 Samuel 24:6

These words have been stretched far, far into today’s “Touch not God’s anointed” as a warning to anyone who would presume to question or rebuke an erring pastor or any other Christian leader. 

So let’s do some history on this.  In the theocracy of Israel, there were three groups of men specially chosen by God and then anointed for their offices—1. prophets, 2. priests, and 3. Kings — and God indeed “suffered no man to do them wrong” Psalm 105:14. However, all three offices were completely fulfilled in Christ. The Levitical priesthood has been abolished, and Christ is the eternal high priest.  

As far as New Testament anointing is concerned, this is now accomplished in every true believer. “Now he which . . . has anointed us, is God; Who has also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts” 2 Corinthians 1:23-22. No longer are we dependent on special instruction and guidance from priests and prophets.  Why?  Because we have the inerrant, infallible, written Word of God, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. 

“The anointing which you have received of him abides in you, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him” 1 John 2:27  

Christians can, and should, learn and grow spiritually from godly teachers of the Word and faithful pastors of the flock, but all–leaders as well as learners–must continually be subject to correction from God’s Word, “neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock” 1 Peter 5:3  (So there’s a lot of teachers and leaders out there who are saying we’re not supposed to touch them (because they’re anointed), but… at the same time, they’re failing to be the example to the flock…   Mainly because their prophecies are consistently failing or their life styles and/or choices are anything but Christ like.) 

No, we’re not to judge each other. We’re not to grumble, murmur or complain – especially against each other.  But no leader, teacher, pastor or whomever is ever to be considered “uncorrectable”.  Each one of us is to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

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14 thoughts on “TOUCH NOT GOD’S ANOINTED!”

  1. It’s a control item using the Bible to beat the sheep, keep them in submission; been addressed for years hardcore. Also, note that David Wilkerson of World Challenge wrote an article called: “Troublemakers in the Church” and he was praying for more of them-too funny. Now the church leadership brainwashing the people: “you’re not called to judge, pastor’s aren’t to be corrected they’re only accountable to God, that’s not your job to judge (goes against scripture, correction, rebuke, reproof, judging righteous judgment; get a Thompson Chain Reference Study Bible and go through it).

    Always research a matter. Having a charismatic/pentecostal cult recognize the symptoms/dogma. Here’s some help and believe me there’s more.
    1. Always research a matter:
    Google: abused by name of church
    Google: abused by name of leader
    Google: name of church and or leader, people’s negative feedback
    Google: name of church and or leader, controversial articles
    report church/leadership abuse to rickross.com, charisma magazine, wittenburg door/Trinity Foundation, Dallas, TX,=they have some great articles posted in their archives-please read; James Sundquist etc., Bill/Jackie Alnor (post it so other people can find the abuse), InPlainSite.org, Christianity Today (send to religion departments of major colleges let them know what’s going on).

    Sad read, we don’t want to think it’s true, Brainwashing article by Dick Sutphen is excellent and also Dr. Ron Enroth article posted on his web to the tune of brainwashing and the youth; that should help.
    Some great books to get you over church abuse: Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by Johnson/Van Vonderan, Toxic Faith-Arterburn, Don’t Call Me Brother/2nd book also by Austin Miles, Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola, anything by Leonard Ravenhill and Arthur Katz, Steve Sampson’s book, Insanity in the Church, Tim Williams (haven’t read). I’M SO GLAD YOU DIDN’T THE KOOL-AID.

    Majority of these people don’t have a life plan, live for the next emotional high, are conference junkies, glory hogs and fire bugs going from one religious experience to another when it’s relationship. How is their behavior, equals fruit.
    Closing note: This has been addressed hardcore to over 350 heads of church leadership, 2004 they were told if they abused sheep, taught wrong doctrine, endorsed oral sex/sodomy from pulpit, private counseling and praying for people to die, it was going public. “As the church goes so goes the world”; if the world is corrupt it’s because the church is and they have basically no accountability. They usually pick the board (usually friends/family members etc). “Don’t Call Me Brother” is basically how the majority of them operate.

    Brainwashed sheep don’t question lack of Bible, true prayer/worship, repentance, humility (and fasting when the Lord tells you, not man). They choose to be brainwashed. No one questions, follows the money trail to their lack of truly helping people (fatherless, widow, orphan, poor, homeless, single parents and their children). As you lose your job/house they will refer you to welfare or say they’ll pray for you as they preyed on you alright to be kept in their lifestyle and philanthropic dreams (your paying for them to write books, their children’s education, travel, but they’re NOT paying for yours-get unbrainwashed and think for your self).
    Are they truly behaving christian, I can answer that?

  2. P.S. We’re all anointed according to the Bible, no one is greater (another comeback from leadership, “by what right, whose authority, you’re not to come up against church leadership” : Here’s great lesson by someone who researched:

    #1
    I have always said that Matt 18:15–17 is Jesus’ instructions for ALL brothers, which includes church leaders. A leader is your brother if he/she is in God’s family and you are in God’s family, period. I give a couple of links below that support this (also see “…picking a church and leaving one..” link further below)

    If leaders tell you that you cannot come up against church leadership then they are in sin. They are against Jesus’ explicit instructions to you and every brother and sister in the Lord. The leaders that continue to refuse to follow/take heed to Jesus’ clear instruction is really telling you they are not your brother. What are they doing in church leadership if they are not a brother who follows Matt 18:15–17. Pastors/church leaders are not above the law, they are men who are accountable to their brothers and sisters in the Lord (just like any of us). Read the very last part in James.

    When a pastor offended me, I followed Jesus commands and patiently and respectfully walked out each step. In the presence of his elders, he protested (in a horribly angry and rude tone) by saying, “Who gave you the authority to do this?” His elder pivoted and leaned into him (to look him directly in the eyes) and, with an authoritative tone, said “She is walking out Matt 18:15-17.” The pastor immediately clammed up but you could see the extreme anger expressed in his face and body language. I was walking it out with respect and boldness but he did not want to heed to God’s truth. It is no wonder he soon lost that elder and then lost his church. He reaped consequences for his many offenses to many of his brothers and sisters, not just me. I know I was not the only instrument God used to walk out Matt 18:15-17 with that pastor. He had many opportunities to stop putting himself above God’s written word.

    There are more links further below but you should first READ the text written for Question 4 which below!!:

    (below text is from link: http://www.biblesearch.com/answers/churchwor/localorg1.htm#q2 )

    Question 4. What are some solid scriptures on authority and protocol in the church? I was told that no brother can correct a deacon;no deacon can correct ministers; no ministers can correct elders;no one can correct the pastor nor his wife.
    Answer This could not be further from the truth. There is a misconception here about God’s authority and the roles of those in a local church who serve as elders, deacons and preachers. Following the line of “reasoning” expressed in your question would and has resulted in false teaching that can affect not only a local church but even many congregations. The most glaring and notable example of this is the Roman Catholic church.

    The Scriptures teach that we should submit to the authority of Jesus and the apostles expressed in the written word. Matt. 28:18-20, Acts 2:42. And, those who serve as preachers, deacons and elders are to follow that word in their service to the Lord. In fact, the Word sets for the the qualifications for these men who would serve. For elders, look at 1 Tim. 3 and Titus 1. These passages also speak of deacons. Then, for preachers, the books of First and Second Timothy, along with the book of Titus, set forth qualifications that should be displayed in their service.

    Then finally,. the crucial part of the question about whether we can correct those men who serve in these positions. The answer is, an emphatic “yes”! See Gal. 1:6-9, 2:11-14, Acts 20:28-32, 1 Tim. 5:17-22 Matt. 18:15-17. Although we should obey those who serve as elders, we should not submit to them, if they violate the Word of God. Heb. 13:17, Acts 5:27-32.

    As a further safeguard, these elders are to watch over a local church only and not a group of churches or some district of churches. Acts 14:23, 1 Pet. 5:1-4.

    If you are entangled in a church where loving correction is not encouraged, I would encourage you, and anyone else in this situation, to leave such a group. Not only your soul is in danger, but the souls of those who lead and follow the false teachers are in danger. Contact Gary

    The link below is excellent and it describes how to go about addressing a brother who has offended you (a brother includes a leader–he is a brother whether he sits in the pew, stands behind the pulpit, or greets you at the door. A brother is a brother in the Lord (also sister in the Lord), period.

    http://www.duanesmets.com/2009/01/14/picking-a-church-and-leaving-one/

    The link below is interesting though I can’t endorse it since I did not spend much time looking at their site, other than a GREAT must-read-letter, which is titled:

    Divorce and the Church:

    Ministers, Pastors and Leadership Who Abuse the Divorced.

    http://www.divorcehope.com/divorcechurchabuse.htm

    Guidance to Pray for pastors:

    http://www.prayershield.com/prayercard.html

    Proper Care and Feeding of a Pastor:

    http://www.barr-family.com/godsword/feeding.htm &

    #2-a male apostolic sent me this:

    AMERICA IS THE CONGREGATION OF THE DEAD.
    The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead. Proverbs 21:16

    America is a dying country. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but America is a dead man walking.
    The once great “shining city on a hill” is gasping for breath. Everywhere you turn you are faced with the harsh truth that the death rattle has begun. We are a dying people controlled by a dying government, infected with the dead leadership of dead men, who chew on a dead gospel served-up in dead churches, by dead pastors living out a dead faith.

    The stench of death is permeating our society. How could this possibly be? America, has wandered “out of the way of understanding.” Make no mistake about it; America is dying of spiritual starvation. We are the victims of spiritual bulimia, willingly vomiting out all that would nourish us.
    America is a congregation of the dead . . . .

    It is eas y to blame the sinner as he proudly gallivants his debauchery for all to see. But it is the “compromise of the converted” that has paved the way for our national suicide. It is not the bold sinner that has destroyed our nation, but the “Silent Saint” ashamed to speak the Truth. And make no mistake about it … we have only ourselves to blame. We have willingly “wandered out of the way of understanding.” We followed folly, “changed the truth of God into a lie” and are reaping the whirlwind from our unwillingness to contend for the Truth. Silence isn’t golden, it’s yellow.

    We are a nation of liars, following liars, believing liars, and celebrating liars. Jesus said “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” We have rejected His words, and we have rejected His life. “Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth.” . . . .

    Our government is corrupt because our people are corrupt. Our people are corrupt because our churches are corrupt. Mos t serve mammon and give lip-service to God. Pastors beg the government to permit them to preach what God has commanded them to say . No man can serve two masters . . . .

    God is judging America m y friends. Fifty million babies, sodomy in the streets, and the purging of His name …

    “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.” Thomas Jefferson.

    The alleged-deist Thomas Jefferson was ten-times the Christian most evangelicals are today and the Baptists wanted to run him out of office.
    “… therefore hath he brought all this evil upon them . ”
    America is the congregation of the dead.
    (note: posted on James Lloyd’s website; also we can II Chronicles 7:14)

    #3 & 4 (written by apostolic people-interesting God showed a German Man the American Church)

    False Heroes
    Dieter Beständig – Germany – March 3, 2009
    D.Bestaendig@t-online.de

    Revelation from Feb 9 2009
    “For nothing remains hidden that will not be exposed!” Habakkuk 2:1-2
    also find this article posted on “injesussite”:
    A New Breed Of Christian Sharks
    Melinda O’Dea March 01, 2009

  3. I’ve experienced God time and time again while down there. I’ve been told by pastors to search out God myself on behalf of their teachings. An obsession with Jesus is no cult.

    That “uncorrectable” term is false, because like I’ve said. They’ve been humble and told us to find out for ourselves because they’re not “100% right all the time” no matter how knowledgable they are in Christ. They are being led by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit says we need to seek Him. So by Mike Bickel telling me to seek the Holy Spirit for wisdom concerning what he preached about the end times. Well, I’ll take his word for it because I should be seeking God anyway.His teachings just declare the glory of God and what He’s all about. I won’t really know unless I seek and find God and all of His glory for myself. Yes, they declare that they’re are not a cult, but that’s words. I need proof ofcourse. I don’t think a cult would promote being obsessed with Jesus. That’s like someone asking Francis Chan if cornerstone church is a cult. Because they “share things together, and are encourged to leave everything behind if you really want to seek Christ”. That’s just Jesus saying how it is and Francis teaching it. So IHOP is just teaching how it is, and not all their doctirne is sound, i’ve descerned some things here and there when down there. But what I really love, is when Mike Bickel and the other pastors told the entire crowd after his message,”Challenge what I say and seek God for yourself. You’ll never know what I’m saying is true or not unless God tells you for Himself. Dig into the word, ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom on this subject. And He will show you, and there will always be a chance that I would be wrong in something.”

    I will say one other thing, have I ever heard them use that phrase “touched not God’s annointed” I would also question it. But believe me when I say, taking everything I hear into account to rather or not I should believe it. When I know I won’t ever believe it until I seek God myself and find the truth. I have never heard this be used by ANYBODY in ihop. So the fact that this was posted last year,I have a lot of insights to ihop with people. I watch the live stream a lot.(more then now than lately) and I don’t hear that ever preached.

  4. So quick question, but at what point did you determine that contemplative prayer was scriptural?

    You’ve got a lot of interesting points, but I’d like you to back some of your thoughts up with simply answering this question. WHEN did you determine it to be scriptural? and was it God who showed you this? or was it after heaing Bickle or whomever speak about it from the platform?

    Problem I have with contemplative is that it lacks that simple portion that calls us to come as little children to Him. It instead tells us that “this” is what “this” truly means and being still before the Lord actually means quieting your breathing, getting into a trance like state.

    I would really like to hear your thoughts on all of this.

  5. Really, It’s not about what I think or what you think. Go, seek God and His word for yourself and thus will I. And He’ll show us rather or not this is true.

    I don’t see anything about “contemplative” prayer in this post. And not once have I really experienced this trance like state of any means. I pray what’s on my heart for the Lord. In a group setting, that’s when you start to seek God and ask Him what you should pray. Only the Spirit knows what is being interceded and thus praying what’s on God’s heart makes things even better.

    But to be honest, I believe regaurdless when anything was. You should go into that sermon asking God for wisdom and revelation about what these guys and girls are going to preach about. Really good time is during worship. That’s when you really open up your heart towards the Lord and let Him soften it but also keep in mind that you have the power of descernment through the Holy Spirit. Leading back to wisdom and revelation. That’s the main prayer they pray. “Lord, give us wisdom and revelation”. But again, you won’t know if what is being taught to be true until you seek the Lord and His word. You should listen to what’s being taught, and go home with believing everything. No, go home and seek the truth. You will really then know. If you already have, awesome. I’ll continue to as well, I’m open to the fact I might have misheard God. I’m human, I will make mistakes only to continue to ask Him for more wisdom.

  6. Okay well I saw that contemplative prayer is a subject, but I still stand on what I believe. I know that since I’ve was baptised there, and began to speak in tounges. I know that the prophetic words I’ve been given to have been coming true the more I seek Jesus. I know that a lot of people who have no association with Ihop have been taught some of the same things with their local church. And agian, have no correlation with Ihop. My main church here, teaches a lot of what Mike has taught before in the past. And all I can do is seek God to see if this is true or not. And ask how I proceed this.

  7. It really urges me to say this: IF you think your church is a cult, seek God on what is being taught and not the pastor. He is there to exhort you in your walk with God and to encourage you through the love of Christ. To teach you what the bible says and what God lays on his heart. Each and everyone of us will have a different revelation of any sermon. This is why it’s important to seek the Lord on your spare time about any teaching and do not believe everything until you’ve had a clear descernment. No, I’m not bashing any teachings what’s so ever. I’m suggesting, go and challenge what is taught. Dig into the Word of God yourself and He will tell you the truth. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 expresses this greatly, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine(I beleive this means the Bible), but according to their own desires,because they have itching ears,they will heap up for themselves teachers;and they will turn their ears away from the truth,and be turned aside to fables.”

  8. Caylan, you said ” I don’t think a cult would promote being obsessed with Jesus”…. I have to disagree with you. Obsession is not healthy and in the mental health field it is associated with mental illness. Here’s a testimony I recommend you read: http://feelingthefiction.blogspot.com/2012/03/emmas-experience.html

    Also, I know of several people who when told “don’t take our word for it, search out the Bible” came back with a lot of questions and were told that they had demons and were kicked out of IHOP. If you like I can connect you with someone first hand. At IHOP it’s their way or the highway! That is a cult my friend.

  9. Regaurdless if that blog is true or not. I’d advise you and myself to go before the Lord to give us descernment of IHOP before we start assuming things.

  10. Not once do I even believe all of that. When I was down there, I fell in love with Jesus and I know I encountered Him.

  11. Caylan, do you mind explaining what you mean by encounter? I was an IHOP staffer for over 3 years, I have been a conference speaker at some of the smaller HOPs as well. I am familiar with and know many on the leadership teams at KC, Atlanta, ZHOP etc, so I’ll ask you a couple of questions, you need not answer, just look them up. Can you find scriptural evidence for the Anna Anointing? Is Joel’s Army (the locust like army described in Joel) a victorious army of believers sent against evil or a punishing army from God sent against His people? Does our intecession release the judgemnets of God or does God enact them according to his timing? Is Revelation 22.17 asking for Jesus to return or asking people to come to Jesus? These are just a few, I know and have taught IHOP’s view and I also know what the scriptures say on each of these, would you take the time and search these things out? You have asked other posters here to seek the Lord on these things before they start assuming things, I know a couple of the posters and myself of course, and we have sought the Lord on this and many other things as well. So please just take a look.
    -Chad Golani

  12. Touching God’s anointed is addressed in:

    Pastor Is Master, Isn’t He? Part 4
    rock-to-salt.cephasministry.com/pastor_4.html
    If this is their attitude, they should not be elders sitting on the board. ….. in the Lord, bashing, smearing, touching God’s anointed, not following Matthew 18, etc. …. For more information and articles by James Sundquist on Church Government …

  13. We are in the last days, and this is a matter of truth and the preservation of God’s Word so that Grace can result. False prophets in the OT were stoned, and in our times, there’s a condemnation that hangs over them. Salvation is about each individual making their individual choice to either follow Him or not, know His word or not. God won’t credit our accounts at Bank of Righteousness because we played the ‘good guy’ and tried to defend someone who is in the wrong. He is looking at our hearts, motives, intentions, thoughts, and will judge each in righteousness.

    He doesn’t want us to wink at sin, error, and rebellion.

    As Paul said to the Athenians, “Truly, the times of ignorance God winked on (overlooked), but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained” Acts 17:30-31

    These are times to be sure of your own salvation and to stay within the safe confines of the Scriptures, to stay far away from new or extra-Biblical doctrines and NOT to play the good guy by defending what God does NOT defend.

    Bottom line: If we aid rebellion and disobedience and receive the proud, do we really still expect to see the Lord bless our hypocrisy?

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