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IHOP & The Rolling Stone Mag. — Oh yeah – IHOP is definitely a cult

Hitting the news: THE TRUTH about IHOP (despite the Rolling Stone writing it about Tyler Deaton’s IHOP antics).

Oh yeah, it’s long but well worth the read.

Interesting facts noted about IHOPers cutting off ties with family members who try and pull them away from Bickle’s teachings..

And why, after reading this, would anyone with any ability to reason think, even for a moment, that IHOP was not a cult?

Anti-IHOP Author is Suddenly Silent?

I just happened upon this story…and found other stories – all connected with IHOP – that renewed the fire in me to warn others about IHOP.

No Stranger to Controversy (IHOP)

March 2013 – Author S.R.Claridge is no stranger to controversy, particularly surrounding her novel, House of Lies.

Upon the book’s release in early October 2012, it was immediately linked to the International House of Prayer (IHOP) student’s, Bethany Deaton, murder later that month. Strange similarities between the happenings in the prayer group, the murder itself and what Claridge wrote in her novel began to surface, making some IHOP members uncomfortable.

In November, Fox news posed a question that was on everyone’s mind: Does the author know more about IHOP than she’s letting on?

In a statement to the press, Claridge said she studied “five groups with cult-like tendencies” before writing House of Lies and admits that IHOP was one of those five; but she has ensured her readers that the book is fiction.

More intriguing is the fact that Claridge’s sister is a leader in IHOP, making the premise of her novel, a story about a woman trying to save her sister from a cult group, appear to hit close to home. Claridge’s distaste for IHOP is no secret, though she maintains that her stance is against the “dangerous cult-like nature of the group” and not against her sister. In a recent letter written to the Mayor of Sunset Hills in St. Louis, Missouri, made public through the Board of Alderman website, Claridge stated, “my sister has a beautiful heart.”

Could House of Lies hold the truth about IHOP and other current cult-type organizations? Claridge won’t say, but advises anyone who is considering joining these types of groups to “educate yourself before jumping in.”
IHOP is certainly no stranger to controversy and has come under fire since the ’80’s. Founder, Mike Bickle, admits that the entire operation has been built upon the prophetic visions of Bob Jones and Paul Cain, both of whom “have been discredited as dangerous false prophets.” Further scrutiny came with the Gruen Report and the secrecy surrounding Bickle’s Blueprint Prophesy, a document supposedly given to him by God, but has been altered three times to fit the ever-changing make-up of current Christianity. Investigative findings and testimonies from ex-IHOP members lend credence to the speculation that something dangerous is happening behind closed doors, though IHOP denies all claims against them and takes drastic measures to distance itself from controversial issues, such as the starvation death of baby Jeremiah Candler and the murder of Bethany Deaton. In both cases, IHOP stated the persons involved were not members, though evidence suggests otherwise.
Claridge’s blog gives insight into some of the groups she may have researched for House of Lies, leaders which include Jim Jones, David Koresh, Westboro Baptist Church, IHOP and many others; though the author remains vague in naming all of the groups and we’re guessing it’s because of the backlash.

On her blog, Claridge stated, “I’ve received countless hate mail, seemingly from IHOP members, telling me I would be better off dead and berating me for writing House of Lies.” In a December post, Claridge stated that she owned a shot gun and was now carrying a stun gun for protection.

It prompts an important question: Do people get that upset about something that isn’t true? Or has House of Lies hit the proverbial nail on the head? A person who might be able to shed light or at least relate to the backlash Claridge is experiencing would be Dan Brown, author of the controversial novel, TheDaVinci Code. After his book release he received death threats and employed body guards because evidence shown much of his fictional novel held truth.
When asked about the Deaton murder case, Claridge said she is following the case closely and praying for justice to be served. “I want the truth to come out so that Bethany’s family and loved ones can begin healing from this tragedy,” Claridge wrote.

Who is Mike Bickle?

Some say he is a prominent Christian leader and will be influential in creating an End-Times army that will pray in the return of Christ. Others say he is the Anti-Christ. We take a look at the facts and let you decide.

Mike Bickle is the former senior leader (until July, ’99, senior pastor)at Metro Christian Fellowship, Kansas City, Kansas (Formerly: Kansas City Fellowship). He pastored the Kansas City Prophets and promotes Latter Rain, Manifest Sons of God theology. He was also a prominent leader in the Toronto Blessing movement, a movement that was found to be corrupted with false prophetic visions and false healings.

Bickle currently leads the International House of Prayer and he told Charisma magazine in July, 1993:

1. We had an elite spirit. That’s become more and more real to me — it’s so repulsive.

2. We promoted mystical experience in a disproportionate way and it was disastrous.

3. We were careless in the way we communicated prophetic words. This was hurtful in a lot of cases.

4. We were wrong in the way we promoted the city church concept. I still believe in it, but now I believe it’s a unity based on friendship.

Had his confessions been a sign of repentance and a changing of his ways, this would have been a positive thing. Instead, Bickle and IHOP grew worse on all accounts.

For a deeper understanding of the Toronto Blessing and the false prophetic words therein, study these writings:
The Kansas City Prophets Chapter in Bill Randles’ book “Weighed and Found Wanting”
The Way of Cain – New teachings in the Christian Church- Where are They Leading Us? Feature-length examination of the movement, its teachings, and its teachers.

Suffice to say, Bickle is fulfilling Biblical prophecy, because Jesus warned us against the false prophets, against those that would do works falsely in His name, and that is EXACTLY what Bickle and IHOP are doing.

Beware! For the wolf comes dressed in sheep’s clothing.

There has been some question as to the validity of the IHOP University in Kansas City, MO. Is it an accredited university? The answer is NO. That means college credits cannot be transferred from college to college or university to university. Students will not take state required classes, such as algebra, physics, geography and economics. Instead, the will be taught to “minister in the prophetic.”

If prophesy is indeed a gift and the Bible says that it is, than how is it that IHOP is teaching kids to “minister in the prophetic?” What’s the difference between this and teaching someone to become a psychic? Absolutely nothing.

Beware parents if you are considering sending your child to IHOP University. It’s a crock. It’s a scam. It’s a sham and your kid will not come out with any applicable world skills whatsoever.

(Note by Annunk: The kids who go there will also come out with a VERY twisted understanding of God and scripture.)
See article below:

International House of Prayer

The International House of Prayer (IHOP) is a charismatic Christian organization based in Kansas City, Missouri.

After a dispute with the International House of Pancakes (the real IHOP), the International House of Prayer started to use IHOP-KC (for Kansas City) instead.

It was founded on May 7, 1999 by Mike Bickle — who was also involved in the controversial Kansas City Fellowship (later renamed Metro Christian Fellowship) where he pastored the so-called Kansas City Prophets.

While many Americans know the IHOP acronym to represent the ‘International House of Pancakes,’ Paul Cain — a heretical minister who considers himself to be a prophet used the initials as an acrostic for the vision of the ministry, which was Intercession, Holiness, Offerings and Prophecy.

The International House of Prayer is a 24-hours a day, citywide, worship and warfare, inter-denominational prayer ministry serving the body of Christ. This ministry is modeled after the tabernacle of David with singers and musicians being released to lead corporate intercession and worship 24-hours a day. This is an effective method for the churches in the county to come together and DWELL in unity so that God can unlock His commanded blessing. …The Word of God Declares “My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations” Mark 11:17. … This House of Prayer for All Nations ministry includes continuous praise and prayer dethroning the principalities and power over a region declaring Gods sovereignty. This is in the spirit of Revelation 4-5 “Harp & Bowl” worship and warfare prayer gatherings, the harp representing praise and the bowl representing the prayers of the saints which is at the heart of David’s Tabernacle.
– Source: Restoring David’s Tabernacle , Revival Times

The International House of Prayer holds prayer meetings around the clock, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

IHOP “is planning a $150 million-plus world headquarters a few miles south in Grandview that would include a 5,000-seat conference center, a Bible college (IHOP University) and administration offices.” [1]

So IHOP is a place of perpetual worship, with continuous two-hour sets of rock band praise music and prayer, which the Web site calls “heroically keeping the fire upon the altar.”

“Get 24/7 access to the prayer room for as little as $10 a month,” offers the Web site.

It also is a Bible school – IHOPU – at which students pay $1,500 a semester to earn two- and four-year certificates.

The Forerunner Ministry curriculum focuses on the End Times. The school is not accredited; meaning credits are not transferable to regular colleges.

IHOPU also has a music academy and a media school at which students use the latest equipment to learn lighting, video production, graphics, scoring and audio effects.

IHOP has outgrown the old Terrace Lake Shopping Center in the 3500 block of Red Bridge Road. At the west end is Glad Heart Realty, which works closely with people moving here to attend IHOP. The broker/owner is Bickle’s wife, Diane. According to the agency’s Web site, all profits go to the IHOP ministry.

The group also occupies another strip center on Grandview Road as well as the former Kernodle Lake community, which now is called Shiloh Retreat and used for IHOP conferences. The 94-acre Shiloh site is blocked from public access. The music academy is in what once were Grandview School District administrative offices.

Most recently, IHOP has contracted to purchase the Grandview Plaza shopping center, which is just south of the site of the planned 125-acre development across U.S. 71 from Truman Corners.

Erin Bardon of BNB Design, a Lenexa-based architecture firm, said occupancy of the new Truman Prayer Center is scheduled for summer 2013. Later phases call for dorms, a hotel and office towers, said Bardon, who is not an IHOP member.

An extensive campaign is under way to raise money for the Grandview project just east of U.S. 71, Hall said. Large donors are expected to show up.

Page 11 of the IHOPU catalog contains these words: “We are looking for a generation of radical young people who are willing to prepare their own hearts and lives that they may soon prepare others for the return of Jesus.”

Controversy at the Center of Silence

February 2013 – Once a vocal spokesperson against cult groups like those in her novel, S.R.Claridge goes silent, leaving fans to wonder why.

To her regular readers it seems strange that Claridge has stopped blogging about the International House of Prayer (IHOP), one of the many groups she admits to studying prior to writing the controversial novel, House of Lies, which generated death threats and hate mail for the author.

Up until last month, Claridge had been staunch in her stance against the group, labeling them a “dangerous cult.” Now, her silence has some concerned.

Ironically, this silence comes at the same time that Claridge’s sister, Director of the Gateway House of Prayer (GHOP) in St. Louis, withdrew her request to turn a vacant firehouse into a rectory for students; a request that stirred dissention within the small St. Louis community.

We’ve now learned that at the center of the dissention was Claridge’s novel, House of Lies, once again prompting people to wonder how much truth is on the pages.

Residents near the Gateway House of Prayer objected to the expansion, signing a notarized petition and placing signs in their front yards; after which they experienced acts of vandalism which resulted in police intervention. No charges have been filed against GHOP members, though many residents remain skeptical of their innocence.

“Nothing like this ever happened in our neighborhood until we said we were against this (GHOP expansion),” one resident told the South County Journal.

“This isn’t the type of group we want in our backyard,” another resident shared back in October with a local television station.

“We read about the Deaton murder at IHOP in Kansas City and had questions about the connection between IHOP and GHOP,” one resident told reporters. She explained how they followed the trail from the Deaton murder to House of Lies to Claridge being related to the Director of GHOP. It was this coincidence that led residents to take their concerns to Claridge, who responded in an email that residents later forwarded to the press.

In the email Claridge stated, “IHOP and GHOP are one in the same. They are not financially or legally linked, but relationally, in belief, practice and methodology they are one.” Also in the email Claridge encouraged residents to “educate yourself on their theology,” calling the group a “dangerous end-times Apocalyptic movement.”

Upon finding out that her letter had been forwarded, Claridge drafted a second letter to the Board of Alderman and the Mayor’s office. “House of Lies is fiction and should not influence your decision regarding GHOP’s permit request,” Claridge wrote . “I encourage you to educate yourself on IHOP/GHOP and base your decision upon the facts.”

We finally caught up with Claridge via email and asked her if her recent silence on the subject was indicative of a change in stance concerning IHOP. She wrote: “My stance against the International House of Prayer movement has not changed. I still believe they are one of several misguided groups with dangerous, cult-like tendencies. I encourage everyone to study these types of movements before getting involved.”

Claridge ended her email by stating that she wanted it made clear that her stance was against IHOP and not against her sister, who happens to be a leader in the movement. “I love my sister and she has a beautiful heart,” Claridge wrote.

Though there is speculation that Claridge is somehow being coerced into silence, the author denies the allegation. “Sometimes you just get tired of beating your head against a wall,” she wrote. “When you become so obsessed about standing against something, you lose sight of all of the wonderful things in life that you stand for.”

Many Branches with Deadly Fruit

As the International House of Prayer [IHOP] works hard to cover its tracks and distance itself from Tyler Deaton and his group of so-called “misfits,” other houses of prayer make the headlines while scrambling to mask their relationship with Bickle’s mothership in Kansas City.

IHOP isn’t your regular Sunday morning church, and neither are its off-shoots. How many churches do you know that have armed guards and escort folks who are asking questions, off of the premises? Isn’t the entire foundation of Christianity based upon a “seek and ye will find” premise? That doesn’t seem to apply at the International House of Prayer, where if ye seek ye will be thrown out by thy armed security guards. Something’s wrong with this picture.

Anna Alvarez, who lives down the street from IHOP-KC told reporters, “IHOP has always kind of given me the creeps.”

Grandview resident, Sean Russian, told reporters, “IHOP leaders have threatened many of us into keeping quiet.” When asked about those threats, Russian said, “ Let’s just say they are persuasive in their methods of getting what they want.” He went on to say those methods included vandalism of personal property.

Across the state of Missouri, the same thing is happening to neighbors of the Gateway House of Prayer [GHOP] in Sunset Hills. According to a resident who asked to remain anonymous, several of acts of vandalism against his neighborhood prompted residents to sign a petition to stop GHOP from expansion efforts into a vacated fire station. The vandalism coincidentally began after local news reported that the neighbors were against the expansion.

“I think they [GHOP] like opposition,” Sunset Hills resident, Wendy Boehner, told reporters in October 2012, a similar statement as those made by Alvarez and Russian in references to its counterpart [IHOP].

Members of these groups believe they have been hand-selected by God to pray in the Apocalypse, the Second Coming of Christ and become a raised up End-Times army. They are taught to expect opposition from those that are not chosen of God. The greater the opposition, the greater the proof they are on the ordained path.

“The dangers of this movement are many,” said former member Stephanie Belmont. “They teach exclusivity and elitism that damage familial relationships and have misguided, anti-Scriptural philosophies that lead to sexual misunderstanding and abuse.” Belmont also said that Tyler Deaton’s group was a welcomed part of IHOP and IHOPU and the fact that IHOP leaders are now lying to distance themselves is an abomination.

Based on false prophecies, the IHOP movement with its many off-shoots and branches appears to be a giant growing tree of life, but the fruit is deadly.

Former member, Beth Cavete, blogged this: “To discern IHOPKC’s fruit, you need to track its impact. Not its entrants. Despite all their protests, Tyler and Bethany Deaton are IHOPKC’s fruit. After almost a decade of faithful ingestion of their teachings, Tyler’s blog was in its doctrinal skeleton, pure IHOPKC doctrine. The perverse “cult” was formed years after their whole-hearted jump into IHOPKC teaching, doctrines, and practices. THIS CANNOT BE IGNORED. The bright new faces are not IHOPKC’s fruit, the state of the faithful adherents over years are.”

Leaders at IHOP-KC did not respond to our questions or attempts to reach them for comment.

If you are involved in IHOP-KC or any of its branches or off-shoot organizations or have family or friends involved and you are trying to get them or yourself out, we want to help and we want to hear about your experience. Your experience could help others.
You may send a private email to: duranthemanmike@<strong>

More Threats Surround Novel ‘House of Lies’

December 2012 – Kansas City, MO – Susan Claridge (S.R.Claridge),author of seven mystery novels, never imagined she would receive threatening letters from readers. But she never imagined one of her stories would play out in real life either.

The problem: International House of Prayer (IHOP) members are claiming her book, ‘House of Lies’ is about their group.

On her blog today, Claridge posted the threatening note: “S.R.Claridge, I have read your blogs about IHOP and your book House of Lies. I know it’s written about IHOP but your information in the book isn’t accurate. You tried to make your character Max Sagan be like Mike Bickle, but Bickle is a true man of God and a true prophet. You are going against God and God will not allow you to spread lies about His chosen people. You are offended by what you don’t understand and you’re mocking people you shouldn’t. If I were you I’d be careful.”

The sender is someone who calls themself “AnonBerean12.” Anon stands for anonymous. Berean is a common term used within IHOP and means “one who tests what is told.” The number twelve can be symbolic of many things, the twelve apostles, the fact that IHOP founder, Mike Bickle, teaches that God is raising twelve new super-prophets and apostles, etc. Regardless of the symbolism, it is clear that the sender is an IHOP advocate.

Claridge’s response reads calm. She first states factual evidence about Bickle, his history with false prophesy and his status of being what she calls a “self-proclaimed” prophet of God, and follows it up by asking the sender a question.

Claridge wrote: “I will end this blog by asking you one question: Could it be that House of Lies offended you because deep down you know you are indeed dwelling in a house of lies? Could it be that it is just too close for comfort?”

If we were to tally points on who won this round it would be Claridge, hands down. But one point cannot be overlooked and that is the fact that a threat was made to “be careful.”

‘House of Lies’ is a story about a 29-year old woman who tries to save her sister from a Kansas City cult group called P3, led by Maxwell Sagan. The book probably wouldn’t have drawn as much media attention were it not for the likeness between the circumstances surrounding IHOP member, Bethany Deaton’s death, and what happens to cult members in the story.

Now, IHOP members are bringing it even more attention with their angry threats.

In relation to receiving hate mail about the book, Claridge commented in a thread on her Facebook page: “It doesn’t hurt me anymore because I know they are speaking from a brainwashed view… but it saddens me.”

Accusations toward the book and the author from IHOP members have been outlandish and Claridge states on her blog that she finds them “humorously ironic.” One such complaint is that the book doesn’t show IHOP accurately.

Any reader or mildly intelligent individual will tell you that there is neither accuracy nor inaccuracy in fiction. It is whatever the novelist wants it to be. However, IHOP members have gone as far as to post negative reviews on Amazon, stating the book shows that the author has a personal vendetta against IHOP.
Despite the fact that Claridge has stated in a Fox 4 news interview, on her Facebook page and in her blog that the book is not written about IHOP, IHOP members refuse to listen. “I studied five cult groups before writing this novel. IHOP was merely one of those five,” Claridge told Fox reporter, Gia Vang.
“They’d rather attack the author and place blame on her for their own insecurity about their cult group than face the truth,” said one ex-IHOP member.

Outside of IHOP, ‘House of Lies’ is receiving rave reviews, likening it to Dan Brown’s ‘The DaVinci Code’ and calling it “another action-packed adventure by S.R.Claridge.” (RipeReviews)

Is Tyler Deaton’s Southwestern group angry because the book, which released three weeks prior to the Deaton murder, foretold the killing in which they were involved? Are IHOP members angry because ‘House of Lies’ hits too close to home?

Whatever the case, Claridge is taking the brunt.

Tyler Deaton’s Inner Circle Crumbling

Immediately following Micah Moore’s confession to murdering Bethany Deaton, Alan Hood of IHOP-U (International House of Prayer University) made a statement denying that Tyler Deaton and the members of his group were an active part of IHOP.

Hood said: “Mr. Deaton led his religious group entirely independently from IHOPU.”

Following this statement, it became clear that Tyler Deaton was listed as a Division Coordinator of the IHOP “Friendship Groups.” Also, Tyler Deaton wrote on his blog that he was an active member of IHOP.

“I am student in Kansas City, MO at the International House of Prayer, in the second year of a 6-year preparation to overseas missions.”

There is now more evidence to support the fact that Tyler and his group were indeed actively involved in IHOP.

Boze Herrington, a friend of Tyler Deaton and Micah Moore, who moved with the group from Texas to IHOP in Kansas City, is listed on FB as an “Editor at the International House of Prayer.”

Herrington also has a blog, though he hasn’t posted since July of 2012.

In a December 2011 post, Herrington writes, “I’ve gotten to the end of this year and I’ve realized, people aren’t all that bad. I don’t know where I’d be without them. Even the people I’m not allowed to talk to. It hurts, but I enjoy them. I like them.”

Is this another case of IHOP telling its members not to talk to people who question their beliefs? Or to “fast from their families” as it has been called by many IHOP attendees.

Also, members of Tyler Deaton’s original group are beginning to talk and what is being said is troubling. Several members have eluded to the notion that Micah Moore didn’t kill Bethany Deaton, that one of the others did, and that Tyler (being the leader) forced Moore into taking the blame, stating, “he knew he had it in him.”

We’re now learning that that statement, which the media and all of us thought to mean he had the strength to kill Bethany, may have meant he had the fortitude to protect his friend and do jail time.

Was Bethany killed out of accidental rage and then Tyler and his friends tried to make it look like a suicide?

That’s the story we’re hearing now.

According to one anonymous group member, who has since left IHOP and returned home to Texas, “I realized they were capable of anything. We were capable of anything.”

What role does IHOP play in all of this? One ex-member says it is the distorted teachings of the Bridal Paradigm that adds a sensual undertone to the relationship of humanity and Christ, sending hormonal surges through the mass hypnotic worship sessions.

Did this message pave the road to Bethany’s sexual assault? Several friends from the tight knit group say YES.

One member, who has recently un-friended Boze Herrington on Facebook, claimed that Herrington didn’t do well with the news that Tyler and Bethany were getting married. They wed on August 18, 2012.

On August 19, 2012 Herrington posted these photos to his Facebook page.

His photo albums have more pictures of Bethany Deaton than anyone else, but no photos of Tyler and Bethany’s wedding. One friend states this is because “he was secretly in love with Bethany.”

Was Bethany Deaton’s murder a crime of passion? Accidental rage? Or was it a deliberate murder to keep her from telling her therapist about being sexually assaulted by Tyler, Moore, Herrington, Vowell, Cain, Matt, Gehring and others?

The truth will eventually spill out and IHOP will need to answer a lot of questions about the ramifications of their false teachings. One cannot open the doorway to evil and then claim no responsibility when the child steps inside.

Posted by Michael Duran

A Response to Charisma Magazine’s Defense of IHOP

From Truthspeaker:

What follows is an impassioned response to Chrarisma Magazine’s editor Jennifer LeClaire,  who wrote a  recent  OPINION piece in defense of IHOP being a cult, which was published twice under the following titles:  Would You Recognize a Christian Cult if You Were In One? and  IHOP Kansas City Is Not a Cult, but Cults Are Rising. (Printing it TWICE under two different titles??  They must REALLY want to get the word out there!!….. Just makes my cynical self wonder how much money exchanged hands.)

IHOP and the Bethany Deaton Case Answering NAR “Prophetess” Jennifer LeClaire By NOLR History

Who is Jennifer LeClaire???

She is: 1) Latter Rain “Prophetess” 2) Charisma Magazine Senior Editor 3) IHOP-Fort Lauderdale leader 4) Pastor of Praise Chapel Hollywood 5) Former Southern Baptist 6) Former Mormon 7) Author of several Latter Rain books dealing with “Five-Fold” and “Jezebel” themes 8) Spiritual DNA Activation provocateur

Jennifer LeClaire’s current article for Charisma is a rebuttal to the substantial (and well-documented) accusations that IHOP is a cult. Jennifer’s testimony includes being abandoned by her Mormon husband as well as being incarcerated in prison, only to be later exonerated. Her testimony is a classic “gutter-to-Jesus” testimony so common to 10s of 1000s of people coming out of “sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll during the Jesus People Movement of the 70s, who today are caught up in the NAR/ICA movement that systematically took over the Charismatic/Pentecostal churches in the 90s.

Her rebuttal article: Jennifer L. LeClaire. “IHOP Kansas City Is Not a Cult, but Cults Are Rising” CharismaNews, Nov. 29, 2012. The Question

“Is IHOP-KC a cult along with all the other ministries that IHOP-KC trains at their Kansas City-base compound?”

Jennifer LeClair uses Mike Bickle’s lecture on the Cults: 7-Characteristics lecture which was used in response to the outcry by concerned parents, law enforcement, and others in the Kansas City area after baby Jeremiah Candler was starved to death.

The Answer

Well, as a matter of fact, yes! All members and daughter “ministries” who have learned the very same false doctrines that Latter Rain leader Jennifer LeClaire promotes have all the “7 Characteristics of Cults” as described above plus a lot more. You might think progress could be made now that Bickle, LeClaire, and countless other Latter Rain false leaders have openly identified themselves as being a cult movement by spelling out their characteristics. The New Order of the Latter Rain (NOLR) is the beginning name for this cult that started after WWII. Later, it was re-formulated in the 90s by Fuller Theological Prof. and “Super Apostle” C. Peter Wagner as the “New Apostolic Reformation” (NAR) led by the “Int’l Coalition of Apostles” (ICA).

Jennifer LeClaire went directly from the frying pan right into the fire. The communist party calls such party members “Useful Idiots.” Jennifer LeClaire becomes a “Useful Idiot” for the Kabbalist NAR and appears to be unwittingly prepped through her former role as a Mormon wife.

The current Deaton case is another of a long list of documents crimes committed by the “restored Melchizedeck Priesthood (a/k/a “Apostles and Prophets”) movement. The NAR has defrauded millions of lives, fortunes, and sacred honor by the false leaders who formulated the Discipleship/Shepherding scheme in the late 70s and 80s. Perhaps the NAR leaders can rally the “best of the best” Latter Rain “Apostles and Prophets” and raise Bethany Deaton from the dead so she can tell the court who murdered her and spare the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s Office from continuing with a very expensive autopsy. Will NAR leaders like Mike Bickle bring out all the miracle-working “anointed” prophets and apostles?? Will they stir up their “anointing” and prove to the world there are a legitimate expression of orthodox Christianity as they say they are? Will they invoke angel feathers and gold teeth and leg lengthening miracles. Let’s see that “Full-Gospel” alchemy turn lead into gold!! Get Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn to conjure up their “Breaker Anointing” !!! Get Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Wilford “Bill” Hamon and his best-of-the-best “Prophetic Teams” trained exclusively at his Santa Rosa Beach, FL “School for the Prophets” to join with Joyner’s MorningStar Zinzendorf compound. Bring in Dave Vaughan of Emerge Wales [], Peter Popoff, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, Mac Hammond, Wolf Eckman and his Livets Ord compound in Sweden, Ralph Martin, Steve Clark, Keith Major, etc. As Dutch Sheets preaches, surely the “synergistic anointing” will raise both Bethany Deaton and Jeremiah Candler from the dead, right? Can’t the NAR leaders cast a decree a Latter Rain spell on the Jackson County Judge presiding over the Bethany Deaton case?? Perhaps “prophetess” Stacey Campbell can shake her head (under “the anointing” of course…) and prophesy victory for the upcoming Jackson County indictment? []

Didn’t Jennifer LeClaire graduate from the “Dream Interpretation” classes taught by John Paul Jackson, one of the “Kansas City Seven”??? Surely Jennifer LeClaire can “speak the Word” and prophetically dream her way to victory, right? IHOP and the rest of the NAR have made captive America’s youth in their “IHOP university” and other “School for the Prophets” compounds. [think “Harry Potter” Hogwarts academy] They are all over Canada, the USA, and Europe. Isn’t there some spell, allegory, or metaphor like “TheCall”, “OneThing”, “Jesus Culture” etc. that NAR/ICA leaders can conjure or skry toward providing “Vision” and “Destiny” so as to augment their “Seven Mountain Mandate” in their quest for World Dominion”???? Maybe they could try burning or cutting themselves like the Prophets of Baal as played out in I Kings 18:25???

Couldn’t Jennifer try Latter Rain magic used by Cindy Jacobs, et al. by putting scriptures on wooden stakes, pounding them around Jackson County Courthouse and making a “decree to the four winds” by saying “Thus saith the Lord”?? George Otis, Jr. and YWAM said their magic caused “Transformations” in various South American countries resulting in the harvest of gigantic miracle vegetables and caused the crime rate to be reduced so a new utopian society would emerge like a Phoenix from the ashes of Adam’s curse.[see

Wait! That’s it!! Let the NAR make up a new “Phoenix Breaker Anointing” !!! Couple that with 40-days of intense fasting and surely that will resurrect Jeremiah Candler and Bethany Deaton from the dead, right? Wouldn’t Jennifer agree with that? Surely Chuck Pierce and Robert Heidler at Glory of Zion Ministries and/or Global Spheres (or other assumed names they operate under) can use more Kabbalah gematria to prophesie themselves to “Victory”, right? [] Why not get it together with the Black NAR “Apostles and Prophets” like Miles Munroe and pedophile “Bishop” Eddie Long who was recently born-again and made a King using ritual magic incorporating an “Auschwitz Torah” by Messianic Rabbi Ralph Messer []. Too bad Lubavitcher “Rabbi” Menachem Youlus, who sold Messer this “priceless scroll,” was convicted and is now in prison for Scroll fraud. [] But it’s the Word-of-Faith neoplatonic thought that counts, right? Speak it! Believe it! It will happen!! Eddie Long is now a King and to believe otherwise you must be a “conspiracy theorist” or be “in rebellion to Apostolic authority”, right??

Too bad Latter Rain Pastor Zachery Tims couldn’t join too, but he took too much “anointing” powder at the W Hotel on Broadway… [ ] Surely NAR New Zealand NAR “Bishop” Brian Tamaki [ ] with his “700-Mighty Men” who made a marriage covenant with “Bishop” Tamaki who in turn previously made a spiritual marriage covenant with “Bishop” Eddie Long who in turn made a spiritual marriage covenant with Earl Paulk who died shortly after being convicted in court for adultery and fathering his son through a relationshp with his sister in law. [see ]

Perhaps you can join with “Prophetic presbytery teams” along with the NAR multi-compound at Gateway Church in Southlake, TX. []

Just thinking of all these NAR/ICA opportunities to “change the face of Christianity” just makes me quiver!

The “Adam-Kadmon” or “Grand Man” found in LDS, Freemasonry, Swedenborg, Rosicrucians and other Synagogues of Satan is the real doctrinal entity behind the “One New Man” of the Latter Rain. You cloak your cult with cleverly-hidden multiple definitions for the same terms. This is a “Cult Characteristic” that Bickle deliberately failed to add to his “7 Characteristics.”

Christ died at Calvary to deliver real Christians *FROM* what “Pastor” Jennifer LeClaire is now entrenched with, not so they could join into this Invisible Basilica. NAR leaders have duped millions of people! Jennifer didn’t learn from her lesson with LDS. She is on a sinking ship that is going down fast!! She is leading countless youth into the eternal Lake of Fire and God has no other choice but to Judge her and the rest of the NAR false prophets. Jennifer and her NAR associates like Steven Strang are all guilty of plagiarizing cult doctrines and practices that are well over 400-years old. They are “digging the wells” to hell. Game over. Wake Up Christians!! Jennifer LeClaire is an NAR cult leader and like Mike Bickle, she cleverly writes about cults and cult characteristics as a ploy to appear as being a genuine Christian! Nice try Jennifer, but it won’t work for you and it surely isn’t working for IHOP, especially with the Jackson County Court. The magistrates just aren’t buying the NAR/ICA magic show at IHOP-KC. Neither is God.

Contact Jennifer now and tell her the Latter Rain games are over:

Jennifer LeClaire Ministries PO Box 3953 Hallandale Beach, FL 33008


Christine Vendel. “Baby died from starvation, KC police say” Kansas City Star, Jan. 7, 2009.

Kendall, Justin. “Killa City: Parents of dead baby were IHOP members” Pitch [Kansas], Jan. 27 2009.

“Court Date Delayed For Rebecca Candler: Jeremiah Candler Died Nov. 18”, April 20, 2009.

Bridal Paradigm and Bethany Deaton


“We deny, we refuse, all sensual overtones in proclaiming Jesus as the Bridegroom. Jesus is not our lover or boyfriend. We do not go on “dates” with Jesus. Receiving the “kiss of God’s Word” (Song 1:2) has nothing to do with physically kissing God. Neither the spiritual interpretation of the Song of Solomon nor references to “the romance of the gospel” have anything to do with sensuality, but with the adventuresome love that is filled with a spirit of abandonment that sacrificially loves and obeys Jesus. An example of this is seen when Paul and Silas sang songs of love to Jesus after being beaten and thrown into prison (Acts 16:22–26).” [Italics mine]

IHOP knows how to post the “right stuff” regarding their beliefs but fails to really get this point across to some of its interns AND its song leaders..

From one of the Brownsville services, according to a former intern: The chorus to one of the songs went, “Let’s make love to the Lord”..

Guys, I want to tell you that yes, the Bible does refer to “the bride of Christ” and Song of Solomon does discuss a deep, deep love between a bride and groom – and yes, that is a picture of Jesus, the Groom and the bride of Christ.  But at NO time are we to think of that as a relationship INDIVIDUALLY with Jesus.  The “relationship” is between “THE ENTIRE BRIDE” of Christ and The Lord. Not between “Amber and The Lord” or “Katelyn and The Lord” for example.

For the past several years I’ve read post after post of young female interns having “wedding ceremonies with Jesus”, and have read post after post with sexual undertones noted from these same girls.  AT THE SAME TIME, I’ve read post after post and listened to interns, defending IHOP, saying that “some people get off track and do stuff IHOP doesn’t promote”, but again, what about that “make love to Jesus” chorus?

What about Tyler Deaton?  What is it that caused him to feel so comfortable being in IHOP leadership?  IHOP is saying “the guy wasn’t part of us.  He was marching to the beat of his own drummer so-to-speak”, but that was only after they changed their November 4th post taking his name off the leadership roster.  (Yes, someone outside of IHOP kept a record of what IHOP had listed ONLINE at its public website.)

Something gave Tyler a sense of “I belong here” and something caused him to feel like he was acting right along the lines of what he’d learned.  IHOP has gone out of its way to cover itself on this one.  (Little Jeremiah Candler’s death wasn’t a big deal at all compared to this one.  But THIS ONE really hits way too close to home.)

Tyler Deaton hasn’t even been arrested to date. Amazing. You’d think IHOP would be DEMANDING he be arrested so they could “clear their good name”…  Now THAT’S something to consider!

Final point: IHOP’s disclaimer (1st paragraph) says that Paul and Silas were “singing songs of love to Jesus” — ACTUALLY, Acts 16: 25 says ‘But at midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them.’

NOTE: A HYMN is a religious song or poem; verb: to praise or celebrate something.  To praise, glorify or, worship in or as in a hymn.  Webster’s online dictionary.

See how scripture is CHANGED or twisted when words are changed ever so slightly?  And see how an institution can have these “terrible offshoots” when it’s members and its leadership fail to be Bereans?  Acts 17: 10-11

I lived with Mike Bickle and his family for several years….

If you’re an IHOP intern, upset with anyone who would speak out against Mike Bickle, against IHOP, then you need to really listen to the words you’re about to read.   The first portion of this appears to be lifting Mike Bickle up on a pedestal and singing his praises!  But the author of these scripts goes further on into his deeper thoughts about the teachings IHOP is promoting.

I lived with Mike Bickle and his family for several years in the late seventies and early eighties at which time I took care of Pat Bickle his younger brother that was a quadriplegic. We lived in a house in the western side of St. Louis which had as many as twenty five people mostly young men living on that property at one time. Now I tell you this because most of your history lesson on Mike begins with KC but the truth began a lot earlier. I got to know Mike and Pat about six months after they returned from Mike’s first attempt at building a church in Rosebud Mo. He was at this time connected to New Covenant Fellowship as a youth pastor and used them to jump start his second attempt which was South St Louis Fellowship, which after a year and a half he moved us all to a building that housed a dying congregation led by Gene Putnam. And in that blend we were introduced to a more radical form of Christianity that included dancing, and worshipping that were much more exaggerated than what we had already experienced.
This is the place where Augustine Acola first came into contact with Mike. It was claimed by Mike that Augustine walked in off the street and prophesied that he was to return to KC and begin a move of God that would sweep the nation. I was there and it was not that grandiose in fact it was very confusing at best but it came on the heels of Mike wanting to make a change from where he was because the leadership that he had formed had soured and rather than reform a new leadership he came up with a better idea which was to jump ship and return to KC with a fresh new perspective on how to start his own church un-tethered to any other denomination.

Now I want to pause here for a moment and say that I knew Mike and Diane personally for about ten years and I have never known there to be any other desire in either of them to do anything more than to dedicate their l
ives to God through Jesus Christ. But it has always been evident from as far back as I have known them that Mike has wanted to build a Movement that would make him great in the eyes of God. He wants to be numbered with the likes of Charles Finney and John Lake. It is His sole passion and desire is to be great in the Kingdom of God and to accuse him of anything less is foolishness and an argument that can’t be won. Mike is obsessed with that idea and he has gone to great lengths to accomplish it and believe me he has not asked anyone to do anything that he hasn’t done ten times over. In fact in the earlier days when Bill Kenney, Paul Coffman and several other Chiefs players were in attendance we would all say that he was the most intense man of God we had ever met.

Mike has always been a man of deep passion for God and the things of Christ and because of that he has a Christian charisma that has drawn believers from every nation together for the one purpose which is to glorify God on earth. However he is human and has developed a Christianity that is very fluid and capable of accepting a broad base of believers and in doing so he has become a target for everyone to shoot at but I can assure you it is not his intention to build a cult or control anybody. In fact I don’t think he even wants to be around people all that much anyway he would rather remain alone but in order to accomplish his goal which is to glorify the name of Christ he has to do so.
He doesn’t have a “cool aid” agenda nor does he have or ever had any malice in his heart for anybody or anything. He is a very kind person that has accomplished an incredible amount to further the Kingdom of God on earth and he has done so by becoming the topic of numerous blogs and essays and books that are all written with the assumption that they understand his motives. But in the pursuit to reveal his error in all that is written and said God has revealed the truth of his word. which has led to wonderment of God’s wisdom. I have never read so much deep and meaningful diverse literature in my 45+ years as a born again Christian as I have in the discussion of IHOP. It takes hours, days, weeks and months to assemble all the things that everyone has written and they would all make a great book that could easily change the lives of many down and out believers. I enjoy reading everything thing that you all have written and don’t disagree with much accept your interpretation of Mike’s motives and I say that because if I had my whole life laid out before the public as he has I would have fallen far shorter than anything he has ever done.

All of Mike’s short comings and interpretations of the Word are designed to accomplish his one desire and to know him would prove this out. God directed me to be a part of Mike’s church just as he had me attend Chuck Smith’s church in Costa Mesa Calif. called Calvary Chapel. Chuck had his critiques just as Mike has his but the bottom line is that God had me attend those two churches so that I could learn from their teachings as well as from the experiences that I would have with believers from their congregations. God is the author and finisher of my faith not Mike or Chuck or any other teacher whether false of true and all my experiences on earth test my heart, purify my faith and form me into the likeness of Christ.

To seek out the things that make a teacher false teaches me of the things that are true. We have all been taught very valuable lessons through our experiences with Mike but it was God who directed us to be a part of what he was doing and if there is anyone to blame it should be Him. In the book of Deuteronomy God said that He left the false teachers in the land to test (or purify) the hearts of his people. Mike’s flaws in his teachings because of his zeal has made him a great platform for discussion but again I assure you from the bottom of heart he is sincere in his faith and dedicated to one purpose which is to glorify the name of Christ on earth. Mike’s only goal is to be great in the Kingdom of God and if that means living in poverty, dedicated to prayer and fasting then he will do that more than any that have ever come before him.

Mike’s rendition of the Gospel of Jesus Christ found in IHOP will come and go, he will never call Jesus down out of heaven nor will he see the signs and wonders that he so desperately seeks for validation because it is a pipe dream that has been manufactured through his life time of trial and error much of which has left hundreds of casualties in its wake.

There are worse things that a person could do with their life than waste it in a prayer room. The fact that it will never amount to much will become evident but to sit in the presence of God is a good thing and should be encouraged.
Jesus however admonished us from the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 6 that …when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.[b] 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.All of which are now common practice used to pray at IHOP but if Jesus said it won’t work who am I to argue?

I am no longer affected in the least by what takes place at IHOP I wish them the best and pray that God will richly bless them in their endeavors. The Word of God is eternal and true and the truth shall be known.

I don’t, however, believe that IHOP is in any way an authentic move of God nor do I believe that it is conducive to any type of good spiritual health in fact in my experience I watched Mike form the foundations of his IHOPian passion for Christ theology and found it to be very destructive. He uses two things that are very alluring to the young and naïve. One of which is the promise of a perfect love affair that is obtained through continual adoration of Christ through prayer. The other is the promise of a ministry or a position of authority in the church through the sacrifices made in the prayer room.

He promises his followers a perfect love affair with God which appeals to young people because they are coming of age for romance but the reality is that an inordinate amount of people that have been an intricate part of IHOP from its inception are now divorced or in spiritual ruin a fact that is commonly ignored. You would be astounded at the amount of relationships and families that I have seen decimated by trying to obtain Mike’s doctrine of a perfect love affair. The divorce rate is shocking as well as the future destruction that is continually wreaked upon the children that were abandoned in the care of strangers while the well meaning parents sacrificed thier lives in the prayer room asking for things that never came to pass. For every one success story that comes out of IHOP there are hundreds of lives that lie in ruin abandoned and strewn in the gutters of want-a-bes and tagged and bagged as bitter and angry because God wouldn’t promote them.

There is nothing healthy wasting your life in a prayer room repetitively chanting prayers and songs that make no sense to God or man. the relationships that are borne out of that behavior are so conditional and volatile that they often times if not for the grace of God end in ruin.

I took part in many the initial activities that eventually led to the IHOPian theology and I can tell you by experience that there are no enduring positive effects but many ill effects that last for decades. My children speak with contempt about their brief experiences in those early days and had I not been grounded in God through my salvation going into those years I would have certainly been numbered among the many shipwrecked casualties of those days.

Sorry for seeming as though I was defending Mike or anything that he teaches I was merely making the point that God may be leading many of the young into that situation to test their hearts through that experience. But I want to warn them that the path of devastation that Mike and his false prophets have wrought in the lives of so many sincere and naive believers is a travesty.

The people that now buy into mike’s form of elitism think that they are exempt somehow from the destruction that he has wrought throughout his ministry this is because they do not understand how it took place. They think that through all the years of trial and error that they have now somehow perfected the form of prayer needed to call Christ down out of heaven which is the foundation of what they are attempting to do. Mike believes that through 24/7 prayer he and his elitists are capable of ushering in the end times and that God will validate it through the signs and wonders that they continually ask for but Christ said that “… it is an evil vial generation that seeks for signs and wonders.”

IHOP is truly built upon the shifting sand of and the ever changing wind of doctrine that mike has designed to allow him to like Teflon in the midst of all his lies. His claims to have had angelic visitations and being taken up into the third heavens all of which have since allowed him bump elbows with the likes of Benny Hinn and his band of wolves. I experienced firsthand and am continuing to experience the destruction that Mike’s IHOPian theology has wreaked upon many of my friends and I can also attest to much of the negative things that are written about him. believe me I don’t defend him sorry for giving that impression.

 One of the things I would most like to address about Mike Bickle is where the main source of his draw comes from for which he is able to continually re-man his staff and fill his prayer rooms with fresh blood in order to sustain his IHOPian movement. Mike has learned that his form of works based religion creates and incredibly high amount of turnover and In order to keep fresh knees at the altar he has had to learn how to replenish his stock. So he has developed a marketing plan that allows him to seasonally travel out to recruit new prospects through the seminar or convention circuit where he can appeal to the young and naïve as well as the transient evangelical. I have personally heard him say numerous times wants to attract the young and naïve because they are not yet soured by the deceptions of the church.

At the window of my house
I looked down through the lattice.
7 I saw among the simple (young and naïve),
I noticed among the young men,
a youth who had no sense.
8 He was going down the street near her corner,
walking along in the direction of her house
9 at twilight, as the day was fading,
as the dark of night set in.
10 Then out came a woman to meet him,
dressed like a prostitute ( a false Teacher) and with crafty intent.
11 (She is unruly and defiant,
her feet never stay at home;
12 now in the street, now in the squares,
at every corner she lurks.)
13 She took hold of him and kissed him
and with a brazen face she said:
14 “Today I fulfilled my vows,
and I have food from my fellowship offering at home.
15 So I came out to meet you;
I looked for you and have found you!
16 I have covered my bed
with colored linens from Egypt.
17 I have perfumed my bed
with myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.
18 Come, let’s drink deeply of love till morning;
let’s enjoy ourselves with love!
19 My husband is not at home;
he has gone on a long journey.
20 He took his purse filled with money
and will not be home till full moon.”

Mike searches for the young and naïve and has prepared a place them that they may “…drink deeply of love till the morning…” and says to them “…lets enjoy ourselves with love…” The passion for Christ is that alluring cry and he says that they are waiting upon the bride grooms return. But along with the young and naïve he has also learned how to draw upon the umpteen-million transient non-denominational evangelicals that church hop across America looking for the supposedly next big move of God. These people often times follow every wind of doctrine that comes along and even though they are quite well learned in the language of Bible still lack any Spiritual discernment to know right from wrong because they have squelched the voice of Truth by embracing the sea of lies. However they know their Bibles and can systematically decimate any logical argument that mature believers may have against their fluid doctrines.
It is from these two groups that he makes his greatest draw because neither of them has the maturity needed to discern the truth through the Spirit and therefore are very vulnerable to the love God that he presents through his passion for Christ message at IHOP. This is a very alluring message because it has so many earmarks for what might seem pleasing to God such as sacrifice, prayer, fasting and dedication to the Word. But if doing these things made one capable of pleasing God then we would have no need for Christ and his sacrifice.

Also there are so many places in the Word that disagree with many of the things that Mike now teaches such as his interpretation for what prayer is and how it is to be performed. In Matthew 6 Christ is laying down the basic to Christianity and he specifically addressed the way we are to pray when he said that “…when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.[b] 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

IHOPians are taught to stand up in their meetings that they may be seen by men and pray in vain repetitions that in their many words they might be heard. What part of ‘don’t’ does Mike not understand?

But one the most compelling things is that mature Christians that are guided by the Spirit of God don’t bear witness to what he is saying or doing . If a believer is truly born of the Spirit they will not be able to bear witness to what he is teaching because it is borne out of lies and deception. When a believer has the Spirit of God dwelling in them and they hear the truth, the Spirit bears witness to it and the heart follows. However if that Spirit does not dwell in a person but rather alongside them they are unable to fully discern much of what is taught and therefore can be deceived.

A person is not born again because they believe in Jesus Christ otherwise Satan himself would have hope but rather it is a work of the Spirit that through a gestation period where the heart and soul tested, tried, prepared and then brought forth into eternal life where we are then born of God and this is an event that must take place in order to be able to fully discern the truth. Mike does not teach about being born again because he may have never experienced it and therefore does not understand it. What he does teach through implication is that salvation can somehow be achieved in the prayer rooms of IHOP. In fact he believes that he can reach his goal of “being great in the kingdom” based upon his performance in the prayer room thus nullifying the cross of Christ.

IHOP is a works based movement that appeals to flesh through the religion of prayer and fasting which is a minor activity in the Word of God but Mike has made it into a major. He is deceived and deceives others because he can no longer discern the truth. His cronies and soothsayers clamor to be at his side because it is him that they have set their hope in for salvation and even though they may have some knowledge of the Word they do not know Jesus Christ whom is the Word.

The Spirit is consistent in all things which mean that He will not bear witness to one that something is not true and to another that it is and the young and naïve and the deceived are both very susceptible to deception of the love gospel that Mike presents because neither is yet born again. They may believe in a form of the truth but are not yet at a place where they can fully discern it and in the mean time are lying with mike …till the morning comes.

Mike because I honestly do love him and hope for his best, but he is very deceived by his own thoughts of grandeur. Pat (Mike’s brother) and I both confronted him often times about his complete disregard for people in his pursuit of making a movement but he shunned us both for years. Pat died having never been healed but he was more in tune with God than Mike ever was and many of the things that he challenged Mike with often caused a great rift in the family of eight brothers and sisters. Pat never believed the soothsayers or anyone else that proclaimed Mike’s greatness because he had the discernment of the Spirit and knew in his heart that Mike and his cronies were deceived.

I often heard Mike’s story of salvation and strongly felt that it was merely an introduction into the faith something we have all experienced but there was never a mention of a time where he talks about being born again. Whereas on the other hand Pat, who suffered a life changing injury, had that experience and quite often shared it with anyone that would listen. Mike however was not into the born again thing but rather was from a very young age always bent on building; first a church that he could call his own then a movement that he could be the founding father of and he learned how to do it at the expense of thousands of innocent believers that trusted in his form of Christianity.

He knows and understands the Word but does not exude any of the characteristics that depict a true born again believer because he so readily accepts all the false teachers and soothsayers now surround him. He also lacks any real sense of spiritual discernment and will lie about things that are blasphemous before God. For Him to make the statement that he was taken up into the third heavens and that Jesus himself told him and IHOP ‘to be patient’ will yield an eternal Judgment that I don’t want to see and now fear for the condition of his eternal soul. Also to say those things without any type of gut check from Holy Spirit is a definite sign that the condition of his salvation is suspect at best.

If Mike should ever read any of these things he will know exactly who I am because long before I ever shared them with you or anyone else I confronted him first, face to face and he wouldn’t listen to them then and probably won’t listen now.

This entire writing are from Truthspeaker’s blog and obtained with the authot’s permission as well as the Truthspeaker’s permission.  All comments to these posts are welcome.